

| Subject: | Re: compressing piston rings in engine |
| From: | Scott Daniel |
| Date: | Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:12:14 -0800 |
I'll read your whole post when I can Tom... but I'll tell you this... this is the only way I put rings on a waterboxer piston .. I do it the way VW intended you to. I remove piston from rod via wrist pin clips. It's tricky. Then I install piston with new rings down into the barrel from the top in the conventional way with a 'normal' piston right compressor ..a big band-like thing ..like you were working on a Chevy. ( piston and barrel off the car and engine..on the work bench ) then I push the piston down far enough that the wrist pin holes are exposed but the rings are still in the barrel. there's very little gap or play there....like 1/4 in max , so be careful. then aseemble the piston with new rings and barrel assembly onto the rod and wrist pin. If a circlip slips and falls downinto the case..you're screwed. Keep lots of rags there to prevent that ..even a good magnet to catch the circlip if you drop it. It's tricky. I have to heat the piston sometimes a little to get the wrist pin to slide in/out. if you yank around on the rod too much there's a slight change that it's a little rough on the rod bearings. sure ..try your 'cheater' method ... the above is the proper way and what VW intended. Scott On 12/9/2013 10:33 AM, Tom Carchrae wrote: > Dear List, > > I am trying to get the rings compressed (with pistons attached to rods and > engine in the car). I am currently in practice mode - using the old rings > but I am finding, as warned, this is bloody tricky. Not to mention it is > getting awfully cold outside - my hands nearly froze to the cylinders > yesterday (I am now storing them inside). > > Some observations: > > 1) I have a standard blue steel compressor: http://goo.gl/Eapbve (which > has now been cut down as slim (width) as possible, thereby removing a strip > of steel that I could also use with a hose clamp) and it very nearly fits > (or maybe not) in the tight space between the water jacket and the sleeve. > If you've used one in this scenario, where did you locate the compressor > ratchet mechanism when doing the last cylinder: top, bottom, side? The > bottom seems to nearly work. > > 2) Even if I were to get the standard compressor to fit, how on earth will > I remove it? I would need to unwind it all the way and slide it out I > guess? Or unwind it so it fits around the cylinder? I can see being able > to do that on the first cylinder, but that seems practically impossible on > the second one when there is no room. If you've used the compressor (hi > Alistair!), which route did you go? > > 3) It seems that the VW specific ring tool ( http://goo.gl/RdkUEp ) would > be much easier to remove (but looks like fun job to get it to compress). > Alas, while it ranges from $5-10, it seems to be out of stock in Canada > and about $30-40 to ship. Bah. I'm considering making one from the steel > I cut from the compressor. > > 4) I really liked the zip tie then cut idea from Angus Gordon. I have a > hose clamp, but tightening it would seem quite difficult. I presume that > the way you would tighten a hose clamp is by going in the same access hole > (water pump/pipes holes) when you are doing the last cylinder? > > 5) It seems the sensible order to attach cylinders would be first the two > on the rear/flywheel side and then follow by front/pulley side. > > I am considering dropping the engine, if only so I can (a) get better > access, (b) haul the engine inside to be warmer or god forbid (c) admit > defeat and take it to a shop who will roll eyes, cluck, and then likely > punish me for my arrogance. I guess most VW mechanics are used to some of > that. > > As always, thanks in advance for any illumination. > > Tom >
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