

| Subject: | Re: oil light question |
| From: | Karl Wolz |
| Date: | Wed, 1 Jan 2014 09:38:33 -0700 |
Before replacing those switches, I'd do a close examination of the wiring; Id guess more likely the problem, considering the confidence you have in the engine install. ;-) Good luck Karl Wolz |-----Original Message----- |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] |On Behalf Of Steve Cotsford |Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2014 9:31 AM |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM |Subject: Re: oil light question | |On Jan 1, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Steve Cotsford <cotsford@aol.com> wrote: | |> Thank you Karl. I have received some info from some other |folks and made a little progress. |> |> I was informed that it might well be a defective oil |pressure switch and I plan to replace both of them to |eliminate that possibility. Engine is a 2.1 originally from |a syncro I believe and mileage is a bit over 100,000 miles. |Installed into my 89 Bluestar. Yes i am not very |knowledgeable about WBX engines. |> What happens is that the oil pressure light blinks on and |off regularly, starting just a few minutes after cranking the |engine and allowing it to idle. It initially goes out as one |would expect. |> Then after idling for a while the light starts blinking on |and off. Revving the engine a little seems to change |nothing. The light still blinks on and off in a regular |manner. I can stop the engine, wait a few mins then switch |the ignition back on and the red light still blinks on and off |at the same regular manner even without the engine running. | I re-crank the engine and the light goes out, then after a |few minutes of idling, it starts blinking regularly again. |This is not like a flashing you get with low oil pressure on |an older car at a very low idle. |> I have revved the engine a little higher and if I get it |over 2500 rpm, the light goes out. When I lower the engine |speed back down, sometimes it will start blinking again, |sometimes the light will stay off. |> I am pretty sure the oil pressure is not problematic and as |someone has suggested, an oil pressure switch is old and |defective. I have no way to hook up a gauge at present but |I will soon and I intend to replace both the pressure switches. |> |> Now concerning the temp gauge red light flashing. I found |out that I had no cable plugged in to the coolant reservoir |sensor. I was apparently not careful or knowledgeable back |in May when i installed the tank and subsequently i have |rooted around, found the cable, plugged it in and now I can |run the engine and there is no more red light flashing in the |temperature gauge. |> |> I am learning a lot and admit that I still have a lot to |learn :-) Thanks for help from this list !! Happy New |Year to all !! Steve |> |> On Jan 1, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM> wrote: |> |>> Steve mentioned OP light, but later on spoke of coolant |level sensor. Regular flashing is not an OP light symptom, |but is indicative of a missing coolant sensor wire, which he |says is the situation on his van. |>> |>> More info , please? |>> |>> Karl Wolz |>> Sent from my electronic umbilicus |>> |>>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Dennis Haynes |<d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: |>>> |>>> I'm here at Disney Epcot for New Years eve. I would begin by s |>>> Checking the wiring and sensors. A clogged oil filter can |also cause the low pressure light while the high pressure |buzzer may not come on as that switch is before the filter. |The symptoms you describe are indicative of the oil pump inlet |screen blocking with carbon or sludge. With the water boxer |this usually means rebuild. |>>> |>>> Dennis, |>>> From my phone. |>>> ________________________________ |>>> From: Steve Cotsford<mailto:cotsford@AOL.COM> |>>> Sent: �12/�31/�2013 2:44 PM |>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> |>>> Subject: oil light question |>>> |>>> It seems very quiet in Vanagon circles today. Probably |means that people are resting or socializing and generally |doing worthy things :-) |>>> |>>> I have read some articles on Vanagon oil pressures and I |get the impression that its fairly common for older 2.1s to |have problems in that area. |>>> |>>> I have seen other types of engines with low oil pressure |and generally the oil light will start flickering at idle when |the oil gets hot and thin. I am unfamiliar with the Vanagon |system with two senders however. |>>> |>>> My oil light will start blinking on and off at a regular |fairly slow timing and no changes in engine speed seem to |affect the blinking. However when the engine is switched off |and restarted, there is no oil light. However after a few |minutes, the regular blinking starts again. And once again, |the speed of the blinking, on-off,on-off seems to be |completely unaffected by engine rpm. My gut feeling is |that its not oil pressure or lack of that is causing this but |some other fault. Engine is a 2.1 from a Syncro I think |and its installed in my 1989 Bluestar Vanagon. I am unsure of |the mileage but was told its a little over 100k. |>>> |>>> I can go buy a mechanical gauge and screw it into a |pressure switch point but which one? The one near the |distributor or the one down between the pushrod tubes. Which |makes the most sense? Are they both connected by oil |passages within the engine? Is this a common fault and is it |likely to be related to something in the gauge assembly and |not in the engine at all? |>>> |>>> Thanks for any help. Enjoy your new years eve :-) |Cheers Steve |>
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