

| Subject: | Re: Engine woes - what to do? Cars with more possiblities! |
| From: | SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss ) |
| Date: | Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:42:12 -0800 |
it's not fridae so let's stop here. briefly though ..the Jag XJ 6 engine is a huge lump of iron that dates from 1947 I think. Fantastic when it came out . and used until the early 90's even I think....by then it was desperately outmoded. And the chevy engine weighs less, has more power and if far less finnacy ( sp ? spell checker can't figure it out either ) ..especially over the carbed jag engine that soldiered on until 1986 in the JX6. On 1/12/2014 6:20 AM, Todd Last wrote: > Yes, but note the resale value for a Jag with a chevy engine. > The whole reason for having a Jag or a Mercedes is the engine. > Removing that, kills the resale value. > > Todd > > On 12/25/2013 11:52 AM, Scott Daniel wrote: >> for example the popular Chevy V-8 in the Jaguar XJ6 >> Possibly hundreds of those have been done. Possibly more than that >> even. >> Very likely there are kits for that conversion. >> >> I've seen a Mercedes sedan ..the popular 300D body style from about >> 1984, with a .. >> A carbureted Chev V-8 and chevy auto trans dropped into. They guy >> nagged me to buy it even ..for $ 2,000 or so, well less than what he >> had into it. Had a large goofy wing on the trunk too. If I didn't >> already own 20 vehicles ........... >> >> >> I believe the 'small block' chevy V-8 engine, first introduced in 1955 >> with 265 cubic inches displacement.. >> and with variations and other versions with larger displacements, was >> produced into 2000's and may still yet be in production.. >> >> I think no basic engine design on earth has had so many examples >> produced.. >> in the 10's of millions of them. >> And that engine is generally the most common hot rod or conversion >> engine ever, certainly in North America, >> and around the world, GM of Australia for example. I'm sure they know >> that engine well ther. >> >> Merry ! >> Scott >> >> >> >> On 12/25/2013 11:40 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote: >>> Yes! Any car with a conventional front engine driving the rear wheels >>> via >>> drive shaft and solid rear axle. On all of these use most any >>> engine-transmission assembly your wish and even change the rear axle! >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>> Behalf Of >>> Jim Felder >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:08 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Engine woes - what to do? >>> >>> Does anyone know of a car that has more engine swap possibilities >>> than a >>> Vanagon? >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Jack R <jack007@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I know a couple volks who are very pleased with their Bostig >>>> conversion. >>>> http://www.bostig.com/ >>>> >>>> In my case, I came very close to putting in a 2.5l 5 cly TDI (owned >>>> the motor, and was ready to proceed), but the cost to beef up the >>>> trans due to the torque of a diesel among many other things, resulted >>>> in converting my >>>> 84 >>>> Wolfie to a 2.1L out of a 91 in tip top shape. Very pleased in all. >>>> As I use my Westie for a few weekends of Michigan Camping, and put >>>> about 5,000 miles on it a year, the ROI from the costly conversion to >>>> get more MPG or performance is not there for me. >>>> >>>> Each conversion is a unique decision, and Scott makes some valid >>>> points on your current situation. >>>> >>>> Good luck with whatever you do... I'll speak for everyone on this >>>> list, we ALL hate to see any Vanagon leave circulation!! >>>> >>>> Jack R. >>>> 84 Westy Wolfie with a 2.1L (owned since 87, and restored to original >>>> splendor) >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Scott Daniel >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:14 AM >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>> Subject: Re: Engine woes - what to do? >>>> >>>> I'll have to second this. Inline 4 gasser didn't pop into my mind as a >>>> solution out of the poster's current delema .. >>>> but yeah .. >>>> simple , cheap, durable, easily repalced, all VW , good fuel economy, >>>> decent power .. >>>> there is a lot to like in a VW-based I4 gasser conversion. >>>> >>>> ...if I ever find time to my to play with my 3 actually.... ..mutter >>>> mutter. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/23/2013 4:07 PM, Don Hanson wrote: >>>>> I'll chime in for the inline VW swap as probably the simplest and >>>>> most >>>>> economical way to go. Like Jim, I really like the power, the fuel >>>>> economy and the overall simplicity of having a VW motor on VW >>>>> parts in >>>>> my VW van. I did keep the Digifant 1.8 liter head and all the >>>>> wires >>>>> do plug right in, pretty much. It bolts right in using VW diesel >>>>> parts that are available and proven...the diesel VW engine is the >>>>> same block as the gasser, so all the parts for mounting it are >>>>> factory >>>>> stock. ABA blocks are also identical. My motor cost me about $600 >>>>> to build from a $300 Jetta ABA and I sold off the extra parts to >>>>> almost make a profit. >>>>> You can find almost unlimited inline VW motors for under $500 >>>>> all over everywhere. The only downside is there is no one source of >>>>> information on this particular swap, not that it needs a lot of >>>>> explaining. Inline parts are dirt cheap, they are simple to work on >>>>> and quite robust. I was a VW rookie when I got mine already >>>>> converted, but the fellow who did the conversion was a carpenter and >>>>> not a mechanic. I've since done a lot of swapping around and >>>>> messing with it, mainly to learn and because they are so cheap and >>>>> simple....They are easy to mess with....I never HAD to work on mine >>>>> much, but I chose to go to the ABA 2.0 liter block after reading >>>>> about it and finding one for $300...Took me 2 days, about to swap all >>> the >>>>> stuff over and re-install it into my van. I have a spare motor now, >>>>> too...should I ever need one. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Todd Last <rubatoguy@comcast.net> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> After almost 230,00 miles my '88 Vanagon is displaying symptoms of >>>>>> a >>>> head >>>> leak - I have not yet confirmed this or done a recent compression >>>> test, but plan to do so. I have concluded that one of the worst >>>> things you can do to your van is not use it. Bad things happen when >>>> they >>> are left sitting! >>>>>> In any case I am looking at my options, and started out thinking >>>>>> about >>>> replacing the heads, then thought if I was going to do that, I might >>>> as well put in new piston rings too, and well, once you do that you >>>> might as well go a step farther and do an engine rebuild. Of course, >>>> once you get there, the question becomes, stock, modified (like >>>> GoWesty) or engine swap. In looking at these options, it looks like a >>>> cost of $5,000 or more. From what I have seen, Subaru conversions can >>>> reach over $10K. Yikes! >>>>>> I was wondering if I could get opinions on the best course of >>>>>> action in >>>> this situation, not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars. >>>> Would list memebers give me their 2 cents worth and if possible, what >>>> the aproximate costs for the various solutions range from? I'm not >>>> sure if it makes more sence to just install new heads and hope for the >>>> best, or go full bore and swap the engine. >>>>>> What does the voice of experience say? Anyone out there have >>>>>> opinions on >>>> the GoWesty performance engines vs. a Subaru transplant? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Todd >>>>>> '88 Westy >>>>>> >> >
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