Thank you Jim for confirming my intention/expectation for a brighter nighttime driving. I have tried all kinds of half-measures over the years. I washed the inside of the housings, upgraded the wiring with relays, tried higher wattage bulbs, replaced countless plastic adjusters, etc. The only thing that marginally helped was installing extra driving lights on the chrome bumper. They are not pretty. Now the plastic adjusters are getting brittle and some are broken again.

As of this morning, I have a line on a '85 or older grill and a separate line on a set of brackets. (Thanks guys! You know who you are.) I intend to install the 7 INCH H4 Hella round headlights in them. I'll report back after my retro-conversion project. Oldies but goodies I say. 

James

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> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:36 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> I've owned old and new vanagons with round and square lights. The round
> lights with the bus depot or other similar upgrade is a world apart from
> any other vanagon lighting. The way that the light is bright like a
> "modern" car with an evenly filled field of light below a sharp cutoff,
> with that "up-angle" on the right to see roadside stuff better just can't
> be beat.
> 
> You can make square headlights better by cleaning them thoroughly, not a
> simple thing to do sometimes. You can make any of them better, including
> the round ones, by giving them better wiring and grounds.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:05 AM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What I do have mounted on the front bumper is two fog lights and two
>> aircraft landing lights. They are angled slightly out to really light up
>> the side of the road. Really helps to avoid the dark hole problem - but
>> can't be used all the time - specially with oncoming traffic.
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On 1/28/2014 12:45 AM, OlRivrRat wrote:
>>> 
>>> its S'A'Grill HeadLights TrulySuck compared to
>>> mine ~
>>