It's all about "...the angle of the dangle."😉

BenT
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> On Jan 23, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss ) " <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> 
> I hear you guys for sure on the logic of your preference.
> 
> I was thinking more  of out of town use...major trip use, even 'this is my survival capsul' use for vanagons - -  about the advantages of manual over AT.