

| Subject: | Re: Engine Starting Problem |
| From: | Steven Shelton |
| Date: | Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:58:30 -0500 |
I drove it around for a while and now the noise is tolerable. I'd never heard it that loud. I let the oil drain overnight before I refilled it; maybe that had something to do with it. Well, I spent half the day trying to fix a starting problem, didn't find anything wrong, and now it starts fine. Not very satisfying. Thank you all for your suggestions, though. Just knowing there are people out there with a lot more knowledge than I have gives me the confidence to attempt these repairs. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:59 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote: > Having a Mann oil filter will help prevent this. > > > John > > On 2/25/2014 2:28 PM, Steven Shelton wrote: > >> This is turning into a real nightmare. I reinstalled the AFM; now it >> starts fine, but the engine makes a loud clattering! It's done this >> occasionally over the years, but always went away pretty quickly. Now it >> won't stop. I've gone over it with a stethoscope and it seems to be >> loudest at the driver's side of the intake air distributor, but it's hard >> to pinpoint. I disconnected the fuel injector plugs and cranked the >> engine >> to see if something was bouncing around in a cylinder, but heard nothing. >> Can all this be related? It all started off with a shorted oil pressure >> sensor wire. >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Intermittent problems are often elusive. Will it start reliably with the >>> AFM >>> disconnected? If yes then you do have a mixture control issue and the >>> sensor >>> being disconnected is helping get past it. I would look for massive >>> vacuum >>> leaks and wiring issues. Except for the O2 sensor which is a >>> "consumable", >>> it is very rare for any of the other sensors to go bad. Again, the >>> connectors and wiring is more often the real problem. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >>> Of >>> Steven Shelton >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:12 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem >>> >>> I meant that the engine turns over and over but it will not start/run. I >>> checked the intake air sensor (Bentley 1999 edition pg 24.28): >>> >>> 2-3 556 >>> 6-9 557 >>> 6-22 2697@18 degrees C >>> 2-3 and 7-9: ohms change as I moved the sensor plate >>> >>> Is this a definitive test or could there still be something wrong with >>> intake air sensor? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Dennis Haynes >>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote: >>> >>> Cranking and starting are two completely different issues. The starter >>>> will crank (turn)the engine over if you removed the complete fuel >>>> delivery system and put it out to the garbage. >>>> Check the wiring on the back of the starter. The solenoid trigger wire >>>> may be loose and you're working near there is making or breaking that >>>> connection. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Steven Shelton >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 1:18 PM >>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>> Subject: Re: Engine Starting Problem >>>> >>>> OK, as I said above, the engine would not crank at all, even after >>>> returning to it using a charged battery the next day. As soon as i >>>> removed the AFM, even with the #1 spark plug removed, the engine >>>> cranked right up. >>>> I checked the ECU connector, with the following results: >>>> >>>> 2-7 3213 ohms@16 degrees C >>>> at this temperature the reading should be 3000 ohm to 3500 ohm. >>>> I also checked at the temp 2 sensor, it was 3178 ohm. >>>> >>>> Other readings were: >>>> 1-7 10.64 V >>>> 5-7 infinity >>>> 6-19 558 ohm >>>> 7-25 0 ohm >>>> 11-7 14.9 ohm >>>> 12-7 15.1 >>>> 14-6 3154 ohm >>>> 15-19 555 ohm at rest, it moved up when I moved the plate >>>> >>>> Does this mean conclusively that the temp 2 sensor is OK? Any >>>> suggestions on what to try next? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>
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