

| Subject: | Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem |
| From: | Stuart MacMillan |
| Date: | Sat, 1 Mar 2014 13:19:13 -0800 |
Yep. I blew out a filter on startup at about 17 degrees with 20w-50 on my '84 with a fresh rebuild in it (heavy duty pump too). This was shortly after I blew up a used 2.1. What a mess, I think it pumped out the whole crankcase in the five seconds before I noticed the oil light and gauge at zero. It rarely gets that cold around here, but I now run Mobil 1 15w-50. If you want to really know what's going on with your engine and bearings, install an oil pressure guage. Ignorance is not bliss with waterboxers, especially with the 2.1s! VW knew this, and that's why they installed two pressure sensing systems. In my experience, when those rod bearings go they go fast and without warning other than with low oil pressure or a very hard knock you can easily tell from tappet noise (In my case in about 3000 miles). If you hear that knock, stop driving if you want to have a core to rebuild! I didn't and it cost me. Stuart -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Haynes Even in a worn out Waterboxer, 20w-50 should not be used in cold weather. Synthetics give a bit more leeway but as you near the teens many destructive things can happen with too heavy an oil. For the winter I even go down to the 0w-40 European formulae for my daily drivers. If I have to drive Fun Bus to work on a cold day with the Mobil 1 15w-50 I let it warm up a bit and drive extremely gently until I see the oil pressure drop a bit on the gauge. Dennis
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