

| Subject: | Re: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Sun, 2 Mar 2014 10:53:11 -0500 |
Yep. Dennis, From my phone. ________________________________ From: Alistair Bell<mailto:albell@SHAW.CA> Sent: 3/2/2014 10:14 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Subject: Re: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters You still don't have it right. 1 bar = 14.5038 psi 14.5038 X 0.03 = 4.35 Alistair > On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:54 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > > 14.1 psi = 1 bar. 14.1 x .3 = 4.23. I stand corrected. > > Dennis, > From my phone. > ________________________________ > From: Chris S.<mailto:szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> > Sent: 3/2/2014 7:30 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Subject: Re: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters > > Isn't the low pressure switch .3 bar? 1 bar = 14.5 psi? > > Chris. > > Wysłane z iPhone'a > > Dnia Mar 1, 2014 o godz. 22:55 Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> napisał(a): > >> I think some are missing the main point of the dual oil pressure warning >> system. The low pressure switch is activated at around 3 psi. On the >> Waterboxer the high pressure switch is ~12.6 psi. On the inline engines the >> high pressure switch is ~ 25 psi. Having only the low pressure really means >> that at speed it is no longer an oil pressure warning indicator but a >> replace engine indicator. Unfortunately the engine would let you know >> something was wrong by the strange noises, loss of power, the sudden smoke >> screen as a rod exited the case. >> >> If your engine can't maintain 12.6 psi at 2,000 rpm you do have a problem. >> Now with the water boxer it is possible to get the oil so hot that the >> viscosity drops to the point that you will get the buzzer and there may be >> nothing wrong except for that high oil temp. However that is still not a >> healthy situation over the long term. If your driving style or needs are >> such that this is problem then a good fix is a well-designed oil cooling >> system. I am convinced that the oil cooler is the main reason I have had >> such good luck with the engine in Fun Bus. >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of >> mark drillock >> Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2014 10:35 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Oil pressure warnings, WAS: Mann Oil Filter and lifters >> >> I think the biggest improvement was making the oil warning led a blinking >> warning to better get the driver's attention. The second oil switch I agree >> is of debatable value except it allowed for a loud warning buzzer to be >> added to really get the driver's attention while driving. I might be happier >> with just a 1 switch setup if it was combined with a buzzer that triggered >> whenever the warning light came on while the engine was running. An oil >> pressure gauge is not a viable substitute for a warning light but does its >> uses as an additional item though I know of many people who added one only >> to have IT be the source of trouble. >> >> Mark >> >> Stuart MacMillan wrote: >>> Interesting. But what's that good for other than causing anxiety? >>> Without a gauge to monitor pressure under various conditions it's >>> completely useless IMHO. >>> >>> Stuart >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mark drillock [mailto:mdrillock@cox.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 4:36 PM >>> To: Stuart MacMillan; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: Mann Oil Filter and lifters Was:Engine Starting Problem >>> >>> This supposed correlation of the new dynamic oil warning system with >>> some weakness in the 2.1 ignores the fact that VW began fitting the >>> more complex dual oil switch system to all their vehicles in roughly >>> the same time frame. The major makeover to the electrical system >>> beginning in 86 Vanagons was merely a convenient point in time to also >>> add the same modernized oil warning system that many of their other >>> cars got the year before. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> Stuart MacMillan wrote: >>>> ..... >>>> If you want to really know what's going on with your engine and >>>> bearings, install an oil pressure guage. Ignorance is not bliss with >>>> waterboxers, especially with the 2.1s! VW knew this, and that's why >>>> they installed two pressure sensing systems. ..... >>> >>>
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