

| Subject: | Re: Rear wheel studs |
| From: | SDF ( Scott Daniel Foss ) |
| Date: | Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:05:47 -0700 |
re 'other factors' .. the exact ,perfect, perfect. rear wheel studs .. that come in two lengths .. are Porsche 911 parts. When I have gotten them from a Porsche dealer...they were about ..probably now 15 bucks each. here's all the ways rear wheel studs can be wrong that I've seen : the shank is too long, sticks out of the flange, and the wheel gets stuck on it..very common almost. the stud does not jam/press fit in the flange properly. the stud is too long, leaving too many threads exposed outboard of the nut. ( what's wrong with that, right ? lol ) the stud is not quite long enough .. the one time I bought studs for under 2 bucks each .. they were really not precisely exactly right. not even close really. On 3/13/2014 2:06 PM, Ralph Meyermann wrote: > The bolts and nuts came with the wheels I got from GW. The nuts seem to be > 15-18mm deep. > > Velma 82 1.9L AAZ TD Westy > On Mar 13, 2014 1:54 PM, "Dick Wong" <sailingfc@dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> I have no issue with exceptions to the rule. I'm sure VW has done their >> homework. >> >> Other factors to consider when fastening parts with nuts and bolts: Cut or >> rolled threads, grade of the nut and bolt, thread pitch, material type. >> >> -Dick- >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM, mark drillock <mdrillock@cox.net> wrote: >> >>> Rule of thumb aside, on factory alloy wheels VW used nuts that didn't >>> even come close to meeting your "stud is flush or protruding" goal. A >>> mere 7+ threads was deemed sufficient by one of the worlds largest and >>> most successful car maker. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> Dick Wong wrote: >>> >>>> General rule of thumb for bolt to nut engagement: From a strength >>>> standpoint, the minimum length of thread engagement should be at least >> the >>>> diameter of the bolt. For a 14mm x 1.5 lugnut/lugbolt, you should go >> for >>>> 14mm of engagement. If you can't measure the available thread length, >> you >>>> can calculate the minimum number of turns needed by knowing the thread >>>> pitch. In our case, the thread pitch is 1.5mm per thread. The nominal >>>> bolt diameter is 14mm, therefore 14mm/1.5mm per thread = 9.3 threads. >> And >>>> since there is one thread engagement for each turn, the minimum number >> of >>>> turns is 9.3 for the nut/bolt engagement. >>>> >>>> In the case of a lugbolt engaging into the brake drum, if the drum wall >>>> thickness is less than the bolt diameter, there is no further strength >>>> gain >>>> by going beyond the depth of the available threads. >>>> >>>> If nothing else for a nut on a stud, make sure the stud is flush or >>>> protruding from the top of the nut. >>>> >>>> >>>>
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