Thanks folks, looks like I have found one hope to have part in van
tomorrow.   All the other bits are in so might see how a van is supposed to
shift tomorrow.

The one in olympia is the only one I have seen for a while.  I think I
found one a bit closer this time, thanks for the tip!

Thanks again

Art.

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