

| Subject: | Re: Ethylene glycol can self-ignite at 782 degrees? |
| From: | David Beierl |
| Date: | Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:08:29 -0400 |
At 05:49 PM 3/26/2014, Larry Alofs wrote: >What intrigues me about the original question is what actually >happens when you heat a mixture (say 50-50) of water and ethylene >glycol to its boiling point. Does the ethylene glycol become more >concentrated or do they vaporize together as happens when we use >acetone for examle to dry lab glassware. Me too. I haven't found anything conclusive with a mild search. A few data point: If you take a 70:30 glycerine:water mixture in a sprinkler system and spray it into a domestic grease fire in Truckee, California, there will be a big explosion that kills your wife and burns you severely, blows window glass 85 feet, and knocks the casings of pre-cased interior doors apart. This seems to be the event that caught the NFPA's attention in 2009, though similar things had happened before. At least one 50:50 premix MSDS lists it as NFPA 704 fire 1, health 2, reactivity 1; same as pure ethylene glycol. It shows flash point as N/A because >20% water, but autoignition temp 748F (quoted as pure glycol). Ethylene glycol just makes it into NFPA 704 fire 1, as its flash point (closed-cup method) is about 238F against a threshold of 200F for fire 2. Autoignition point is listed variously at 748F or 770F. Boiling point 387F. Heat of vaporization 369 BTU/lb vs 970 BTU/lb for water. Comparison: autoignition point of gasoline varies by composition, range of roughly 475-535F. Diesel about 410F. Propane about 880F. Paper about 425-475F. Triethylborane -4F. <-- watch out for that stuff! I suspect that a lot depends on the particular conditions obtaining at the time. Yrs, d
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