

| Subject: | Re: Ethylene glycol can self-ignite at 782 degrees? |
| From: | Chris S. |
| Date: | Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:17:17 -0400 |
Grease, now it makes more sense. Chris. Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia Mar 26, 2014 o godz. 19:08 David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> napisał(a): > At 05:49 PM 3/26/2014, Larry Alofs wrote: >> What intrigues me about the original question is what actually >> happens when you heat a mixture (say 50-50) of water and ethylene >> glycol to its boiling point. Does the ethylene glycol become more >> concentrated or do they vaporize together as happens when we use >> acetone for examle to dry lab glassware. > > Me too. I haven't found anything conclusive with a mild search. A > few data point: > > If you take a 70:30 glycerine:water mixture in a sprinkler system and > spray it into a domestic grease fire in Truckee, California, there > will be a big explosion that kills your wife and burns you severely, > blows window glass 85 feet, and knocks the casings of pre-cased > interior doors apart. This seems to be the event that caught the > NFPA's attention in 2009, though similar things had happened before. > > At least one 50:50 premix MSDS lists it as NFPA 704 fire 1, health 2, > reactivity 1; same as pure ethylene glycol. It shows flash point as > N/A because >20% water, but autoignition temp 748F (quoted as pure glycol). > > Ethylene glycol just makes it into NFPA 704 fire 1, as its flash > point (closed-cup method) is about 238F against a threshold of 200F for fire 2. > > Autoignition point is listed variously at 748F or 770F. > > Boiling point 387F. > > Heat of vaporization 369 BTU/lb vs 970 BTU/lb for water. > > Comparison: autoignition point of gasoline varies by composition, > range of roughly 475-535F. Diesel about 410F. Propane about > 880F. Paper about 425-475F. Triethylborane -4F. <-- watch out for that stuff! > > I suspect that a lot depends on the particular conditions obtaining > at the time. > > Yrs, > d
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