I have no problem when someone uses their ears to enjoy an electronic
gadget...but when they use MY ears, that pisses me off.
  It's quite selfish and aggressively nasty to intrude on other's enjoyment
of a camping experience, whether it be with your generator to power your
electronic 'camping utensils' or your choice of musical entertainment.

  To each his own, when it comes to what to take camping, but be sure to
not forget to take your manners, your sense of fair play...let the other
guys enjoy their experience without imposing whatever it is you happen to
be doing on them....

  That being said.....In my recent experience I have found that a modern
smart phone fits into my Vanagon adventures and takes the place of lots of
other bulky items I sometimes included in the past...One little gadget that
fits into your shirt pocket can substitute, though in a sometimes lesser
way, for lots of other gadgets and it fits into the Vanagon camping
experience better than multiple widgets...Include some earbuds and even the
tent campers nearby won't even hear you.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nobody has a problem if you use your ears to enjoy an electronic gadget,
> especially if is is built into the the car. Apparently, using such that is
> not part of the car is a little more suspect. Using one that is powered by
> its own batteries is even worse, as the disable batteries you buy for them
> do not last forever and are not made by the ultra-green processes that care
> batteries are.
>
>
> Man, this is too complicated for me to figure out. I'll leave it to others.
>
> Jim
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