

| Subject: | Re: The Head is Off, Assume Cracked? |
| From: | JRodgers |
| Date: | Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:14:00 -0500 |
Dennis, Testing with the brake cleaner is one I have not tried. Didn't know about it. Very good one. Thanks for posting that. John On 4/7/2014 7:11 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > Here is the poor man's method of finding head cracks. > Get some cans of brake cleaner, preferably nonflammable and non-foaming. > With plug in place set up head with combustion chamber facing up. Fill each > chamber with the brake cleaner. It should hold it. Leaky valves will be > evident. If the cleaner goes into the coolant chamber test is done. > Then for the valves that hold, turn the head so the intake ports face up. > Fill the ports. Anything that leaks without going past a valve is a problem. > Then stand the head up and test each exhaust port. > > I have seen heads crack in all sorts of ways. I had one van where both heads > cracked right across the top from an outer head nut hole through both spark > plug holes right to the opposite side. A good cleaning will also help find > these. A local machine shop can tank clean the heads for a few bucks. But if > you fail the first tests then you are done anyway. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Paul Smith > Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 10:45 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: The Head is Off, Assume Cracked? > > This thread really started about a week ago, as detailed in my post on March > 30th: "Replacing the Head Gaskets (Maybe the Head)?" - so I won't repeat it > all here. The vehicle is an 1989 Westy, 2.1 WBX, started with white smoke a > few minutes after startup, returned to the driveway and later when I pulled > the spark plugs I found coolant in the passenger side front cylinder.. I did > manage to get the passenger side head off, going slowly and carefully and > with the expected pain points (exhaust system, etc.). The problem cylinder > was the front cylinder and it was stuck firmly to the head, requiring use of > the methods noted in Bentley and on this list to finally free it. The > sealing o-ring at the top of the front cylinder looked damaged (or > deteriorated) compared to the same o-ring on the rear cylinder, which > appeared to be in good shape. I thought I might have a cause, except that > the compression gaskets in the head both looked good, no apparent damage or > discoloration. I have no evidence that the coolant system was being > pressurized by exhaust gases, only somehow coolant was entering the front > cylinder. I don't see any cracks in the cylinder head combustion area > (hairline or larger), although I have not cleaned all the carbon deposits > off. Both exhaust ports look about as expected, fine coating of black > carbon, with the front port slightly "damper" or more oily. The intake ports > revealed an oddity. The rear (good) intake port looked about as expected, > clean metal with a light oily sheen. The front (bad) cylinder intake had a > coating of grey slimy stuff covering a good part of the back curve of the > intake passage and up around the valve guide area. I was wiping it out > without thinking how odd it was (long day) when I stopped. It seems unlikely > that coolant would be blown up into the intake from the cylinder (valve is > primarily open on the downstroke), but coolant leaking into the intake > passage would certainly be sucked into the cylinder. If it were being > sprayed in from crack in the head it might also form a coating on the hot > intake passage walls. I guessing that this may have been developing over > time, as Dennis Haynes mentioned. I took a close look at the piston tops - > the rear had a light coating of combustion/carbon deposits; the front piston > had some, but is fairly clean (steamed clean?) in the center portion. The > cylinder walls look good in both, smooth, unscored and not scorched or > discolored. > Has anyone experienced a crack like this in the head into an intake passage? > I can't see anything obvious, but without removing the valve and getting a > good view angle I might not. Still might not find anything visually in any > case. I tried briefly to block all the coolant passages and apply pressure > to detect a leak - couldn't get a good seal. All this is being done in my > driveway, no garage, so my shop facilities are limited. I can't understand > how a grey coating could be formed in the front cylinder head intake passage > without a leak of some kind, along with the clear entry of coolant into the > cylinder. Both intake tubes upstream of the head seem fine (the same). The > driver side intakes are also fine. > It seems like a replacement head may be the best option at this point. I'm > not sure I can find the cause, although it pretty clearly appears to be in > the head. I would rather install a new head than try any partial repair or > patch. Then if I get curious enough I can pull apart the bad head and see > what I find. > Thoughts? > > Thanks, > Paul >
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