Or wine growlers.

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Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.

On 04/25/2014 01:09 PM, Jim Felder wrote:
> Sounds like you have more choices than I do, not surprisingly since you
> live nearer to wine country.
>
> I like the Franzia Merlot for 19.00/box better than anything else I can
> find in bulk, which comes out to $4 a litre but it's good. Not so much
> their or any other cab, which are shuffled off the shelves far younger than
> a cab should be drunk/drinken/drank/consumed.
>
> Agreed that the "Black Box" and similar 3 litre are not worth the money. I
> can say that so far I don't care for anything I've found in the smaller
> boxex. As far as South America, that would be the ultimate--a big square
> box of Malbec, which seems to go as well with tasks like engine assembly
> and Westy kitchen removal and reinstall as a Pinot Noir does with an oil
> change. THAT in my opinion would be a more useful product than Palcohol.
>
> Anyhow, as far as the bottles go, I don't like to carry glass when I camp.
> That, and the fact that the REAL wine drinkers, the French, take their
> collapsible jugs to the hypermarche for plain old drinkin' stuff. They get
> it several gallons at a time for home consumptions. Bottles there are for
> guests and special occasions, and, of course, a diesel injection pump
> rebuild. Americans think that if it's good, it has to be in a bottle. Not
> so!
>
> Best,
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Good idea.  I've settled on the cheapest I can find, the Peter Vella line.
>> $13.99/five liters (6 1/2 750ml bottles) around here, equivalent to
>> $2.15/bottle.  They are running a rebate now of $4 a box up to four boxes,
>> or $1.50/bottle .  Can't beat that.
>>
>> The reds (Burgundy & Merlot) are, as they say, "quaffable," which means
>> they
>> are light and uncomplicated.  Their Chardonnay is also decent, but I prefer
>> their reds.
>>
>> Next up is Trader Joe's "two buck Chuck," (Charles Shaw brand) which is
>> actually $2.50/bottle here in Washington.  I wish Joe would put it in a 5
>> liter box and sell it for $12, but part of their thing is to offer products
>> with an "affordable cachet," and the bottle is part of that.  But, they got
>> their start in California offering a gallon jug of Chardonnay at an
>> affordable price back in the late '60s.
>>
>> Their Shiraz is a nice wine, definitely a cut above Vella's reds. But with
>> Chuck I prefer their Pinot Grigio, which is a very nice summer wine.  The
>> wine is made by Bronco Wines in California, which is run by Fred Franzia of
>> the Franzia wine family.
>>
>> Joe is now offering some box wines from South America at the same price
>> point as the Vella line. I am working my way through them.
>>
>> There are several brands of boxed 1.5 and 3 liter local varietals available
>> here, but they tend to work out to $7 to $10 a bottle.  Often I've found
>> better under $10 bottled wines then those.
>>
>> Stuart
>> Wine guzzler
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Felder [mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com]
>>
>> You sound like me. Anyone up for a discussion on the best boxes wine? There
>> certainly is bad and good out there.
>>
>> Jim
>>>
>>> I'll stick to my 5 liter boxes of wine.  Quantity, not quality on my
>> budget.
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>
>>