

| Subject: | Re: Brakes- |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:46:00 -0400 |
I know others have chimed in. the usual cause of this effect is the combination of the shoes not adjusting properly and the wrong wheel cylinders. The only cylinders I know of that have the piston push out spring is the ATE. Even if you go to the dealer they will likely supply the Brazilian sourced cylinders and they will not have the spring. The pistons sucking back will cause the low pedal and require a pump them out every time until some age makes them get stiff enough to stay out on their own. Many cars used residual pressure checks on the hydraulics to counter act this effect. Also, since the cylinders and the adjusters are on the same side of the shoes, the cylinder pistons have to stay out further as the shoes wear and the adjusters push them out. The next issue is the lining thickness. I have yet to find a shoe set that replaces the OEM. The originals were a semi-metallic lining, riveted, and 6mm above the rivets. The thinner material of the replacement shoes means the drum does not get filled and the arch does not match. This causes the shoes to only wear and provide friction at the top. This seriously reduces the braking effect. The lower shoes rests can be shimmed out. Go check the archives for articles I have posted in the past. While rare another cause of this problem can be the rear brake pressure regulator. I have replaced a few. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Geneva Saint-Amour Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:52 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Brakes- Hey there! We recently replaced the rear brake pads and discovered a leaky cylinder. So we took it to BrakeMasters for new cylinders (and new drums). Just picked it up and the brakes feel great and grippy..... but the first pedal-push is smooshy and close to the floor. The second pedal push seems to "pump it up" and feel higher. Ideas, suggestions? 1985 Vanagon/Westfalia/Hightop/Bostig
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