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Subject:Re: Are all 2.1 engines digifant?
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Sun, 4 May 2014 22:25:38 -0600

Could you please provide the link to where you DownLoaded the 1000+Page Bentley from ~ I have a PrintedBentley

but would also like to have a DigtalBentley ~

                                                                                        ORR ~ DeanB

On 4 May , 2014, at 3:16 PM, Mike Holm Toronto wrote:

> 
> I just downloaded the 1000+ page Bentley shop manual so i will look it up, thanks. This is an involved process so it will have to be done when I have more time, perhaps tomorrow. The idle is roughly 1900 and doesn't move more than 5-600rpm when warm so I will try and see what happens.
> 
> Thanks
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Beierl" <dbeierl@attglobal.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 14:16
> To: mike@BOSSSOLAR.COM
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Are all 2.1 engines digifant?
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:51 PM 5/4/2014, Mike Holm Toronto wrote:
>> Cool. I'm still working out the possible reasons for my idle sitting 
>> at 2000rpm. I cleaned the Idle valve (which has been unplugged and 
>> taped up by previous owner) to no avail. Another one is being posted 
>> as we speak but if the problem is in the module, it would be good to 
>> know and figure out how to fix it. The modules are a bit costly so i 
>> hope it is not that.
> 
> --> The idle valve can only raise the idle, never lower it.
> 
> You have to set the base idle down to the specified idle speed using 
> the big plug in the side of the throttle body.  Engine should be 
> fully up to temp including oil; electrical consumers and radiator fan 
> not running, vapor canister purge line pinched off, oil breather hose 
> removed and plugged, idle valve unplugged,  oxygen sensor 
> disconnected with ignition off to reset the ECU memory.  The complete 
> setup and procedure begins on Bentley 24.50.  If you haven't got 
> Bentley let me know and I'll photograph the pages for you.
> 
> If the throttle body is worn (and of course if there are vacuum 
> leaks) you may not be able to set the idle down to spec using the 
> plug.  The right answer is to replace the throttle body, but you can 
> get a bit more range out of the plug by soft-soldering a shim onto 
> the end of it.
> 
> If the throttle cable (or rod on auto-trans) is too tight the 
> throttle plate may not be reaching the idle stop.
> 
> If the throttle switch isn't closing at idle the idle will never 
> settle down below 1,000 rpm the way it's supposed to; but it will 
> only be slightly above 1,000 and a bit wavery**, not up by 2,000.
> 
> **on my '89 with any of several different ECUs but the same idle 
> control module, anyway.
> 
> Yrs,
> David 
> 
>