

| Subject: | Re: Off topic Friday question on switches... |
| From: | Gnarlodious |
| Date: | Fri, 16 May 2014 18:18:39 -0600 |
So its called "split phase", that would make more sense for a home workshop. If the motor has a low-torque startup delay in the broken switch then he needs a special switch or risk motor damage and causing voltage dropouts in the neighborhood If the motor has a shaded-pole type delay built into the motor, he can use a regular two phase switch. Or rather, a dual contact switch for 2-wire. I would just say that using the plug as an on-off switch is a bad idea as you can get arcing burns on your plug and socket and end up replacing them later. Until then, burned contacts can generate heat and be a fire hazard. I actually had this problem in my Vanagon with my old Iota battery charger. When I plugged in the van capacitors (inductive load) inside the charger would pull so much power the brass contacts would spark. After a while I figured out plugs and sockets were burning up and sizzling causing a hazard. And the problem was contagious, when you plug in a good extension to one that has been burned it starts to burn the good wire, so after a while all your wires are trashed at the ends. So a few months ago I installed a new modern charger that doesn't spark when plugged in, problem solved. So a plug is not meant to be a switch for inductive loads, due to the high inrush current. -- Gnarlie On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 5:04 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: > At 06:43 PM 5/16/2014, Gnarlodious wrote: > >> Modern homes have 2-phase service to run resistive loads like clothes >> dryers or water heaters, which use a special huge socket. The service box >> is 2-phase but wired for single-phase loads. Except for the dryer and >> oven, >> which tap across 2 phases. You won't find any large inductive loads in >> residential homes >> > > Ok, we're talking about the same thing but disagreeing about what to call > it. I really don't see how it's legitimate to call the output of a single > transformer winding "two-phase" if you're not using the center tap, as you > are not when you hook up 220V loads in US domestic service. Suppose that > instead of grounding the neutral wire you grounded one of the hot wires. > Now it would stay at earth potential and you'd have a 110V hot from the > center tap and a 220V hot from the other end of the winding -- both exactly > in phase. But leaving aside the practicalities of safety making this > arrangement undesirable, you haven't actually changed anything. > > I think "split-phase" is a useful way to describe how we wire houses in > the US, and "two phase" is not; especially when there are actual two-phase > systems still in use in this country. > > Yours, > David >
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