

| Subject: | Re: Where do you get your coolant? |
| From: | Dave Mcneely |
| Date: | Sat, 17 May 2014 08:34:24 -0500 |
You are welcome. Another poster followed up with a photo of the bottle label from the yellow bottle PEL (regular, not diluted). It states to be phosphate free. That is true of Zerex long life coolant also. I use Zerex, which states on the bottle to be phosphate free, and it is yellow. ---- Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote: > McNeely, thanks for this VERY good information ! > > Frank > > > On May 16, 2014, at 3:29 PM, Automatic digest processor <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> wrote: > > > Hmmm ..... . Hard to know what is going on here. I found this on Prestone= > > 's web site: > > > > "Q: Does Prestone=C2=AE Antifreeze/Coolant contain phosphates? > > A: Some European automobile manufacturers request that a phosphate-free ant= > > ifreeze be used in their vehicles. This issue is related to the extremely h= > > igh mineral content of the water in Europe. If you were to mix an antifreez= > > e that contained phosphates with the type of water they have in Europe, it = > > may produce deposits that can settle in the cooling system and promote corr= > > osion. However, in North America we do not have this type of water problem.= > > Typical North American coolants have contained phosphates (which is part o= > > f the corrosion inhibitor package) for many years. Therefore, the question = > > of phosphates is a non-issue here in North America. Prestone=C2=AE Antifree= > > ze/Coolant is completely safe for use in both foreign and domestic vehicles= > > . For those consumers who would feel more comfortable using a phosphate-fre= > > e antifreeze, our Prestone=C2=AE LongLife=C2=AE Premixed Antifreeze/Coolant= > > and Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE Antifreeze/ Cool= > > ant formula=E2=80=99s are phosphate, silicate, and borate free. These coola= > > nts use a special chemistry and technology that extends the life of the cor= > > rosion inhibitor package so that it lasts for five years or 240,000 kms (wh= > > ichever comes first), and is safe for all cars and light trucks (old or new= > > ). Prestone=C2=AE Dex-Cool=C2=AE Premixed LongLife=C2=AE Antifreeze/ Coola= > > nt has been approved by General Motors under their DEX-COOL=C2=AE specifica= > > tions and is compatible with other DEX-COOL=C2=AE approved coolants. > > * DEX-COOL=C2=AE is a registered trademark of General Motors Corporation." > > > > http://prestone.com/products/antifreeze_coolant/product_list > > > > > > The product mentioned in the answer to the question is shown in a yellow bo= > > ttle. Whether it is a diluted form of the Prestone Extended Life Antifreez= > > e/Coolant also in a yellow bottle is not clear, as is whether that product = > > is phosphate free (based on product descriptions on the Preston web site). = > > I would not trust any product to be phosphate free unless the manufacturer= > > made the claim that it was in print. > > > > As to there being high phospate waters in Europe but not in the U.S., that = > > is simply not true. There are lots of water sources in the U.S. that are h= > > igh phosphate, especially ones that receive agricultural or urban runoff. = > > Most watersheds receive both. > > > > mcneely -- David McNeely
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