

| Subject: | Re: Intermittent no start problem solved |
| From: | Alistair Bell |
| Date: | Sun, 18 May 2014 12:06:48 -0700 |
Yes, I've seen the jiggle key to make it run situation before. But not in this case, well not that I could do. Cheers Alistair > On May 18, 2014, at 11:56 AM, "Stuart MacMillan" <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yep. A long time ago my '68 wouldn't start while cranking, but would catch > as soon as I let the key go back to "on". That was my first experience with > a failed ignition switch, and now I check that first whenever I have > intermittent problems like yours. > > Stuart > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Alistair Bell > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:40 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Intermittent no start problem solved > > Relating this tale in part to illustrate how blind to the obvious one can be > sometimes. > > Over the winter I noticed the van took more turns with the starter to run. > Back then I did do the electrical tests outlined in Bentley to see if some > sensor or something was awry. But everything was in spec. > > B me over the last few weeks the van would sometimes take quite a few tries > with the starter to fire up. I couldn't make out any real pattern, sometimes > it would fire right up, sometimes I would have to crank and crank. > > If I was forced, I would say it happened more often with the engine warm. > > Once started the van ran normally, good power etc. I wasn't happy with the > idle though, seemed rougher than normal. > > So the last few days were spent tracking the problem down. I checked fuel > pressure and all tests passed. I checked spark plugs and replaced 2 year old > plugs with new. Checked distributor rotor and hall sensor. Checked the D15 > connection at fuse panel ( I had fixed that a while back). Lucky I did pull > the fuse panel as I found a very iffy connection at my low beam relay. > > Then I went at the connection box in the engine compartment, left hand side. > My van had the bbw46 heater installed. I had pulled the nonfunctional heater > unit and plumbing but the wiring was still in place. The heater system has > two fuses and a big relay in that box which made the box even more of a rats > nest than normal. I checked the connections, black wires, that feed the > coil, idle system heater, and ecu relay. The wiring to the connections was > hard and the connections didn't look good. I cut back and replaced the > spades. > > All of the above did not fix the problem. Of course at that point I was > cursing myself for not making one of Mark's test wire set ups. If I had I > think I would have saved myself a lot of trouble. > > I had my wife crank the engine and I measured voltage to the coil. I > wondered if there was a voltage drop problem during starting. Well it was > more than a voltage drop, it was a voltage absence during starter cranking. > > I was stumped, I didn't see the obvious. While I was thinking, I cleaned out > the idle valve with brake cleaner. > > We have this hard to capture rooster that has taken to roosting at night > under our bedroom window. So I was up at five this morning. And them it > occurred to me, the ignition switch. > > I got out a spare, and plugged it in to the steering column plug and turned > it with a screwdriver. Engine started up immediately. Tried it again and > again, engine started. Man, did I have egg on my face. I have replaced a few > vanagon ignition switches over the years but overlooked it this time. > > Alistair >
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