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Subject:Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!! Hip Hip Huzzah!!
From:Alistair Bell
Date:Fri, 13 Jun 2014 20:17:17 -0700

Irish planes in the arctic? Well northern Irish planes :)

Squirting fuel into a jet engine ( turboprop) different than a piston engine engine but your info is pretty interesting.

Alistair

> On Jun 13, 2014, at 6:31 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Just a side note - I used to fly Short Bros. Skyvans  which had
> Garrett-Air-research Turboprop engines - essentially a jet engine with a
> gearbox and a propeller. They burned jet fuel - a high grade diesel
> fuel. In Alaska, in winter, we switched to Arctic Diesel, basically a
> very clean fuel oil, and the engines just ran along, happy as clams in
> sand. But in summer - we would switch back to Jet fuel. In an EMERGENCY
> situation when jet or arctic diesel was not available, leaded 80/87
> aircraft fuel could be run through the engines for a certain number of
> hours - and it wasn't that many - after that - the engine fuels systems
> and certain other components had to be taken apart and the engine
> cleaned thoroughly. It was actually overhaul level work, though it was
> not specified as such.
> 
> 
> Alternate fuels can be used but with the understanding of what they will
> do to your engine.
> 
> John
> 
>> On 6/13/2014 6:56 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>  I guessed I missed something along the way. I have never seen diesel
>> instructions promoting the use of gasoline except in small quantities to
>> prevent gelling. I would think kerosene is a much better alternative before
>> gasoline as it won't damage the engine.
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>> KIM BRENNAN
>> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 10:47 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Diesel $$ RE: 88 GL - Failure to Start - but now it does!! Hip
>> Hip Huzzah!!
>> 
>> One of the cool things about diesels (at least the older models), are the
>> fueling instructions.
>> 
>> aka, if you can't get diesel fuel, you can use gasoline if you can't get
>> gasoline you can use kerosene if you can't get kerosene you can use alcohol
>> etc.
>> 
>> (of course the recommendations are to drive more conservatively on the
>> alternate fuels).
>> 
>> Most of us, of course, won't be driving in places were that is a concern.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 13, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Ralph Meyermann <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I love mine, well since the AAZ upgrade for more oomph. Minimal
>>> electronic engine components to fail/diagnose.
>>> 
>>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ TD Westy
>>>> On Jun 13, 2014 12:22 AM, "JRodgers" <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Prol'ly so!
>>>> 
>>>> john
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/12/2014 11:18 PM, Don Hanson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I bet they still will find a reason to keep us out of electric
>>>>> vehicles
>>