Eric,

I ordered from Van Cafe. They carry the genuine units - then they have
an after market unit at about half the price. I ordered the aftermarket
units because I seem to replace theee fairly frequently due to rock
damage, etc, plus I have two vans to keep maintenance on.

It just so happened that they had only the right hand  after market unit
in stock at the moment - so, because my red van is off the road UFN, I
just pulled  both turn signal lamps and stuck them on the Carat. Now I
have turn signals.

John

On 6/26/2014 3:24 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> Hi John,
>
>          Could you let me know where you  ended up getting your front turn signal from?
>
> Eric Caron
> 85 GL Auto Westfalia
>
> On Jun 26, 2014, at 12:41 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> I pulled the front turn signal lamps - and they were half  full of
>> water. The covers were all cracked which of course let the water in, and
>> the receptacles and the connectors were completely shot. Git aome
>> re-work to do there. In the meantime - complete new front turn signal
>> lamps are on their way.
>>
>> Brake issue is yet to be worked on.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 6/25/2014 4:05 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>>> For the turn signals, the correct flashers for you van will indicate if
>>> there are not two bulbs drawing current to let you know one is out. The
>>> usual indication is a fast or erratic flash or no flash at all. Except for
>>> breaking a wire there is nothing to separate front/rear so start at getting
>>> the front lights to work. Bad bulbs, sockets, or grounds/wires.  Note these
>>> are two filament bulbs, turn signal and running lamps. 21/5 watt.
>>> For the turn signal indicator weirdness could be wrong flasher or a bad
>>> emergency flasher switch. The wiring here is complicated as when it is off
>>> the turns signals still work through it. It is what combines the left and
>>> right sides.  Operating it may clean the contacts.
>>>
>>> For the mushy brakes your symptoms sound like the rears are not installed or
>>> set up correctly and you may have the wrong cylinders. You may also have a
>>> bad rear brake pressure regulator. Check the archives for my past brake
>>> write ups including shimming out the lower shoe rests.
>>> There are two brake switches. Either one shorted will leave the lights stuck
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>>> JRodgers
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:41 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: 91 Carat - Turn Signals and Flasher
>>>
>>> I now have the Carat on the road, BUT - finding many things to be fixed.
>>>
>>> Safety issues:
>>>
>>> Turn signals:
>>>   After a great deal of searching I FINALLY found a FLAPS with a  turn
>>> signal relay that works - but it's shaped different from the usual stock
>>> relays for the van. Shaped different. I now have turn signals BUT - they
>>> only work on the rear of the van - not the front. And - the Hazard Flasher
>>> does not operate. Additionally, the turn signal indicator light glows
>>> slightly when the ignition is on - and goes to full bright when the turn
>>> signals are activated - left or right. Dunno what that is about. As soon as
>>> I can get another relay from one of our List Vendors
>>> I'm going to replace this one even though it is working   - sort of. In
>>> the meantime - anyone have any ideas?
>>>
>>> Mushy Brakes:
>>>
>>> Just had a brake job on the front end - and the brakes are really mushy
>>> - like I have to pump like crazy if I have to make a fast stop.
>>> Otherwise the pedal goes near to the floor. In fact - once it did hit the
>>> bottom stop. The brakes don't pump up and hold - they will mush again as
>>> soon as they are released. I would suspect air in the lines but I was
>>> assured by the shop the brakes were well bled. If that is the case
>>> - I suspect the master cylinder is bad. Related to that is a tail/brake
>>> light issue under another topic. Any opinions or comments appreciated.
>>>
>>> Brake Lights:
>>>
>>> They don't work properly. When a fuse is put in the fuse holder - the brake
>>> lights come on and won't go off. I suspect a bad brake light switch - goes
>>> along with maybe a bad master cylinder  - both of which haven't been used in
>>> near 15 years. Opinions??  Suggestions??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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