

| Subject: | Re: AC Removal |
| From: | Michael Magnani |
| Date: | Sat, 28 Jun 2014 10:48:12 -0700 |
I bought some matching laminate and a cabinet latch from GW and made a new front panel (where the rear speakers are mounted) with a door. Looks like it came from the factory that way. Keeps things from flying out when I have to hit the brakes :) Mike M Sent from my iPad > On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:24, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > The exceptions to this are the '85 and earlier units in Westys. Useless, > but the good news is the Westy cabinet is still there, albeit with no door. > The storage space is far more useful for me, but I don't live in a hot humid > climate. > > If I did or ever start travelling extensively, I'd consider Small Car's > in-dash system: > http://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=62 My only > concern with this conversion is it eliminates all fresh air intakes, leaving > the windows as your only option. But that's the most efficient way to run > it when it's really hot anyway. > > Stuart > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Dennis Haynes > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:28 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: AC Removal > > I feel the same way. The 87 and later units work well even running R134A if > repaired and charged correctly. Properly service they should not require > much maintenance. They do however rob engine power and fuel economy. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Zeitgeist > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:55 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: AC Removal > > A little piece of me dies every time I hear of someone removing the AC from > their T3. It really works great in a well sorted system running R12 or some > equivalent. In sunnier climes, try a good 3M UV window tint as a means of > mitigating heat soak during brief stops > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 28, 2014, at 5:53 AM, Steven Shelton <shelton4@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >> >> Thanks for your help, Kieth. At some point VW changed the way they >> hung the AC from what's described in Bentley. All bolts and screws on >> mine came out from below the rear bed board. It's a pretty easy one >> man job that way and it's not heavy so it can be held with one arm >> while the last bolts are removed. I did put a sawhorse under it, >> though, to keep it from possibly crashing down. >> >> I'm in Georgia and, yes, there have been times over the years when the >> heat without AC was almost unbearable. Those are the times when I >> dream of driving down the road with a electric generator in the >> luggage rack running a portable AC in the cab. >> >> I think I'll leave the space open. After 29 years of driving my >> Westfalia, I'd like to be able to see something in the rear view >> mirror besides tailgaters. Trimming it out will be a challenge, >> though, especially since i want to make everything reversible. Of >> course, with all that stuff I had to pull out, this is a good time to >> add extra lighting. And I can put some better speakers back there, >> too. Oh well, it's too damn hot and humid to go camping, anyway. >> >> >>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 7:47 PM, JRodgers <jrodgers113@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Works in cooler or drier climes - but in Alabama, Georgia, >>> Mississippi and North Florida - in the summertime by the time you >>> got to your destination you would be parboiled! >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> On 6/27/2014 3:38 PM, Michael Magnani wrote: >>>> >>>> I permanently removed my entire A/C system from my 90 Westy for the >>>> same reason: it always leaked refrigerant and even when it was >>>> properly serviced, never worked all that well. Removing the >>>> compressor has made working on the engine a lot easier and I turned >>>> the space where the evaporator lived into a nice additional storage > cabinet. >>>> Mike M >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, June 27, 2014 5:48 AM, Steven Shelton >>>> <shelton4@GMAIL.COM> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't plan on reinstalling the AC. When I bought the camper new, >>>> the AC was only slightly better than open windows. Years ago, when >>>> the freon leaked out and the technician said the leak must be >>>> somewhere in the cabinetry, I just did without. My rationale was >>>> that an enclosed, air conditioned environment just separates you >>>> from > the travel experience. >>>> The >>>> windshield becomes a TV screen for a travelogue. Of course, when we >>>> were in west Texas last month traveling into the afternoon sun with >>>> the temperature at 102 (103 inside the cab), my rationale seemed >>>> pretty irrational. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Keith Hughes >>>> <keithahughes@yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Steven, >>>>> >>>>> You're right. You have to drop it down, then tilt it down towards >>>>> the passenger side. You have to first reach inside and either >>>>> disconnect the condensate lines from both sides of the drip pan (I >>>>> don't recommend that) or pull both tubes up and into the evap >>>>> housing cabinet. Then while supporting the evaporator and fan >>>>> housing, remove the cabinet. This is a PITA alone, but doable >>>>> (i've used a bar stool and hydraulic jack sitting on the engine >>>>> cover to prop up the cabinet). Much easier with another pair of >>>>> hands. The evap/fan housing is very brittle, and loves to crack, >>>>> so you need to be careful. You can't support it from the support >>>>> brackets because the evap fan makes it super front-heavy. I've >>>>> just used the bar stool and boxes stacked to the right height to >>>>> support it while disconnecting the AC lines. >>>>> >>>>> Last year I made a number of mods to my A/C system, including a new >>>>> A/C cabinet, but one thing I did that you may consider is to fully >>>>> enclose the Evap housing (bottom), reinforcing with aluminum angle >>>>> on the perimeter, and adding a front bracket for the housing. Now >>>>> it's self-supporting, and the cabinet can be pulled without >>>>> disturbing the evap housing. pmail if you want pics of the mod I >>>>> did - wasn't that difficult. >>>>> >>>>> Keith Hughes >>>>> '86 Westy Tiico (Marvin) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:15:24 -0400 >>>>> From: Steven Shelton <shelton4@GMAIL.COM> >>>>> Subject: AC Removal >>>>> >>>>> I need to remove the closet of my 1985 Westfalia for some >>>>> rear corner >>>>> bodywork. Of course, I have to remove the air >>>>> conditioner cabinet to get >>>>> the closet out. I've started removing the AC cabinet >>>>> but it looks like the >>>>> evaporator, evaporator housing, and fan will all come out >>>>> with the cabinet. >>>>> But I can't get to the refrigerant hoses to disconnect them >>>>> before the >>>>> cabinet comes down. Bentley isn't clear on this, and >>>>> what they describe is >>>>> different from what I have anyway. What do I need to >>>>> do to keep everything >>>>> from crashing down at once? >>>>
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