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Subject:Re: Truma heater, like propex, for cheap but...
From:Rocket J Squirrel
Date:Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:40:25 -0700

Show me one.

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Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
Bend, Ore.

On 07/21/2014 07:39 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
> Just stick in a 12v to 24 v converter.
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> Alistair
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>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> There are plenty mornings while camping that I wake up in my Westy and see the thermometer in the teens (F), but I've always been able to warm up with a combination of hot tea, a nice sweater, and my Mr. Heater Buddy.
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>> I'm sure that having a nice furnace to blow hot air into the cabin would be swell, and the price of this unit is attractive.
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>> But the 24V thing is a dealbreaker for me. I have two 6-volt golf cart batteries under the bench seat, giving me something like 100 amp-hours at 12 volts. I am not going to put in another 12V battery (or two more 6V batteries) to bump me up to 24V.
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>> Plus there's the charging. The alternator in the van is set for 12V batteries. As is my solar rig, and my at-home charger.
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>> Charging a 24-volt setup can be done, but it would require some switching to put the supplemental (furnace) battery in parallel with the other batteries so a 12V charging source could do it.
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>> So -- put a couple 12V batteries in series (stacked) to operate the furnace; then put them in parallel (side by side) for charging.
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>> Unless the blower motor in the furnace can be swapped out for a 12V motor, and the circuit board can be made to be happy with the lower voltage, and control units can be found that work at 12V.
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>> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
>> 1984 Westfalia, auto trans,
>> Bend, Ore.
>>
>>> On 07/21/2014 07:08 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>> Man that's a good deal. I'd jump on it of they shipped to Canada. I kick myself for not grabbing an older truma from a vanagon in the scrapyard some years ago.
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>>> Alistair
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>>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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>>>> Hey I picked up one of
>>>> these:
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Truma-HEIZG-E24-24V-30-OBT-Propane-Heater-Kit-Bus-Boat-RV-/251564290213?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item3a926670a5&vxp=mtr
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>>>> or:  http://goo.gl/BXLVQ4
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>>>> I offered $50 and it was accepted immediately.  There are 2 left as of now.
>>>>
>>>> It does appear to be brand new stock in it's original box with
>>>> multilingual original manual.  The biggest but is that it is 24V.  So
>>>> you will need to do some electrical contortions to power the device
>>>> if you want to put it in your Vanagon.  It states electric draw of
>>>> .4A on low and .7A on high.  Also, there is no control device.  The
>>>> manual shows 2 different basic controls and mentions a bunch of
>>>> others that can operate it.  The circuit board has empty connectors
>>>> that  they plug into.  I need to find or figure out the pin outs for
>>>> these before I can test it.  It seems to be capable of low and high
>>>> heat output and fan only.  There is no exhaust pipe included.  So if
>>>> any of you are up to a challenge this might be a good opportunity.
>>>> Edward