Pretty soon Don, you'll be liking that Safari over the Vanagon! I spent literally 100's of thousands of miles driving Astro/Safari vans, had 4 of them as company vans, got all 4 brand new and drove them until the they were turned in due to mileage. Then I had two as my personal daily driver. I always thought that drive train in the Vanagon would be the best of both worlds! Jeff

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> Ha...!, Good One, but I didn't mention my 'new' van....I was speaking of my
> REAL van, the 84 tin top with an inline motor....

> But, since YOU bring it up... and it IS Friday....

> I've gotten used to that automatic transmission in the Safari and I can
> sort of predict when it will decide to shift, now. I still do not like it
> or the one in my SOs Subaru, either..
> I took a real highway drive, without a load of tools and no city driving
> and I did manage 17 miles per gallon...so it's not too bad for a 4000lb awd
> van..
> I still prefer my Vanagon, for sure...

> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:

> > The holder of the ticket, predicting 7:16 hrs between the eurovan query
> > and Don's mention of his new van can redeem the prize in the lobby for the
> > next 30 minutes.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Alistair
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 25, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > That is great that your van has run so well and given you painless
> > > service. There are many people who'll post that THEIR WBX motor has
> > gone
> > > XXX, xxx miles without blowing a gasket, too...
> > >
> > > But the question one needs to ask, to paraphrase that famous tough guy,
> > > Dirty Harry....is do you feel lucky, ______? I don't think anyone can
> > > argue that a portion of the WBX powered vans have gone long miles, but I
> > > don't think anyone can argue, either, that those are not the vans that
> > have
> > > given the WBX motors their reputation.
> > > That being said, I have no personal history with either a WBX Van or a
> > > Eurovan, but I do have many acquaintances who have had them, and I did
> > do a
> > > lot of research when I was looking for an alternative to my big American
> > > 4x4 diesel camper truck. I struck both off my list of likely prospects
> > > because I didn't feel lucky...and I didn't want to be paying frequent and
> > > expensive parts bills and constantly rebuilding something...
> > > I think you gather all the information you can and then weigh the
> > > information and make an informed decision...Maybe the Eurovans ARE good
> > > some years and have their notorious transmission failures only on some
> > > model years... I think that was the OP's real question..
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Kris Seago <eljefeweizen@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I replied to the original sender rather than to the list with this
> > earlier
> > >> post:
> > >>
> > >> I think it depends on the specific Eurovan. I have a 1997 Eurovan Camper
> > >> with 218,000 miles on the original engine and transmission. I took it
> > on a
> > >> 2500 mile adventure earlier this summer without a hiccup. Highway
> > speeds 70
> > >> - 75. I averaged right at 20 MPG for the trip.
> > >>
> > >> Kris S. Seago
> > >>
> > >>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 7/22/2014 6:18 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:
> > >>>> Hi All,
> > >>>> Are these are notorious as earlier model years?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Harry
> > >>> A buddy of mine had one of their Multivans and that VR6 got him 20MPG
> > >>> with the AC on and doing 70 mph. Haven't talked to him in 12 years
> > >>> though, so .....
> > >>>
> > >>> DM&FS
> > >>
> >