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Subject:Re: Won't start - no, wait, there it goes!
From:Larry Alofs
Date:Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:45:18 -0400

I was referring to this:
"I update our AT vans to the cheaper and more readily available 76-79 Bay
AT starter (some linkage adj necessary)"

Thanks

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Larry Alofs <lalofs@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dan,
>   Could you give more details about this?  Especially the 'linkage".
> Thanks,
> Larry A.
>
> "I update our AT vans to the cheaper and more readily available 76-79 Bay
> AT starter (some linkage adj necessary)"
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Daniel O Stevens <dosteven@syr.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Roy, it very well could be, and it very well could be a loss in voltage
>> by bad connections in the starting circuit.
>> Including the grounding of the starter to the bell housing and
>> transmission ground cable to the body chassis and body chassis to the neg
>> post on the battery.
>>
>> Each and every one of those points in the full electrical path can effect
>> the starter from getting enough to fully energize the solenoid.
>> Then add in random age and condition of the starter (even so called
>> rebuilts) adding losses and friction to the whole thing.
>>
>> New is better than rebuilt
>> Clean/shiny is better than painted or old and corroded.
>>
>> Due diligence is required for faithful starting..
>> It's often neglected until it starts starting badly.
>> Then is still accepted as the new normal until one is left stranded..
>>
>> I R&R our starters at least every 3 years,
>> I carry a spare (rebuilt) in our automatic vans on any trip outside AAA
>> range.
>> I update our AT vans to the cheaper and more readily available 76-79 Bay
>> AT starter (some linkage adj necessary)
>> I add a Hot Start relay to all our family vans
>> I intend to add a starter button (bypass) in the engine compartment for
>> easier trouble shooting of the key circuit.
>> I entertain the idea of A voltage gauge in the engine compartment, but
>> seems a tad over zealous
>>
>> Unfortunately many Vanagon owners only know about the system is that
>> when they turn the key, it either starts or it doesn't..
>> your mechanic is not on the side of the road with you, or at your
>> daughters dance recital when it happens the worst.
>>
>> I preach self-reliance and due diligence..
>> Now I'll go out and have my van not start on my way home tonight..
>> well maybe tomorrow night, it'll be raining then
>> Dan in Syracuse.
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roy Nicholl [mailto:RNicholl@NBNet.nb.ca]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:18 AM
>> To: Daniel O Stevens
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Won't start - no, wait, there it goes!
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Is this one in the same as the Vanagon "hard start" issue?
>>
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