

| Subject: | Re: Sliding door snap in screen |
| From: | Stephen Grisanti |
| Date: | Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:11:09 -0700 |
Here's a link to�my slideshow on the slider screen my bride sewed. We already had the grey vinyl left over from her having made a Westy-matching dog bed from the vinyl and fleece.� I highly recommend the magnetic closure since you can make a run for the door with hands full while being pursued by mosquitoes and enter the van with no delay and no trouble. Stephen Picasa Web Albums - Stephen - Westy slider ... Picasa Web Albums - Stephen - Westy slider ... Photos by Stephen, Jun 7, 2010 View on picasaweb.google.com Preview by Yahoo � On Sunday, August 24, 2014 2:20 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote: I too have both rear and slider screens.� The rear is factory, using existing snaps.� No installation involved, and fit is VW perfect.� Could not be better.� Slider is GoWesty.� Came with excellent instructions.� Installed exactly per instructions.� Pitiful fit, pitiful in use.� Do you know what May Beetles are (called June bugs in some parts of the country).� They can and do get in.� So, mosquitos have no problem at all.� The screen is better than not having one, but certainly is not perfect.� We modified it to close down the center with velcro rather than a zipper, and stitched the two halves together at the top.� Both helped some, but it is still not what it should (and is advertised to) be.� mcneely ---- Brett Ne <brettn777@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > I've been away from the list for a while, so I hope that this response is > not too late.� I also have an 82 and I installed the rear and sliding door > screens this spring.� If you're anywhere near the Portland, OR area, I'd be > happy to show you where I located snaps.� I put off installing the screens > for over a year because of the lack of instructions and the fact that the > screens are rather ill fitting.� On top of that, Albert is a Riviera, and > the cabinetry is rather different than the Westies, so I couldn't just copy > what someone else had done.� Oh, and the first screw I put in for the rear > screen went right through the sheet metal into the rain channel for the > rear hatch...not a good start! > > The first thing that I did was to take both screens to a seamstress to > create a better fit.� The rear screen was much too wide, so I had both > vinyl side edgings folded over and stitched to the netting.� I had > something similar done to the leading edge (towards the front of the van) > of the side screen at the top to help it fit around the bulge of the door > track.� Before committing to these changes, I spent a lot of time taping > the screens in place to help figure out how to make things fit better. > Don't think of these screens like some kind of factory part that was > carefully engineered to bolt in place; think of them as an oversized > garment that needs to be fitted to make it work. > > On the side screen, I attached the rear edge first, as it was the most > straightforward, and worked my way along the top towards the leading edge. > The most important part of the fit is how the bottom edge meets the floor. > It should just barely graze the floor.� Too high, and bugs can get through; > too low, and the screen will bunch up at the bottom and create gaps for > bugs to get through.� To install each snap, I held the screen where I > wanted it to be and pushed a thumbtack through the vinyl and dug a small > gouge into the van to show where to drill the hole.� Leave the thumbtack in > the vinyl while you drill the hole into the van.� Then pull the thumbtack > out and drill a hole through the vinyl where the thumbtack was so that it > will be easier to push the post of the snap through.� Screw the male part > of the snap into the van, and use the provided tools to attach the female > part of the snap to the vinyl.� Snap the screen in place where you just > installed the snaps and move to the next location on the that edge and > repeat.� You will want a good selection of drill bits to choose from.� The > sheetmetal is reinforced and thicker in some spots & will require a bigger > hole so that you don't break the screw while turning it.� If you're putting > a screw into cabinetry, use a much smaller screw so that the threads can > bite into the wood more deeply and provide a good grip.� You are likely to > break a couple of screws & may be going to the hardware store for > replacements. > > So, tape the screen into place(or have a helper hold it there) and > determine the location of the first snap in the top corner of the trailing > edge being mindful of how the bottom edge meets the floor.� Once that snap > is installed, work you way down the trailing edge until you get to the > bottom.� As I recall, the metal is fairly thick here because it's the main > structural pillar that makes up for the large door opening(you'll find the > same thing on the leading edge of the door opening.� I always have the > screen attached with at least the two previous snaps before marking the > location of a new one.� As you're working your way down, the vinyl can be > stretched or compressed if needed to adjust how the screen meets the > floor.� Near the floor, I put two snaps fairly close together as I figured > they would see the most strain.� There's no exact place the screws need to > go; just split the snaps up between trailing, leading, and top edges and > space them out as you see fit.� Once you have the the traling edge in > place, work your way across the top.� Along the top edge, you'll be > drilling into the ventilation tube, which is thinner sheetmetal than the > pillars & you can use a slightly smaller drill bit than is used on the side > pillars.� If you drill higher up� than the ventilation tubing, you'll drill > through the roof, and that's a no-no.� As you work across, always be > mindful of how the screen meets the floor.� When you get close to the spot > where the sliding door channel curves inward, stop.� Now start with the > leading edge near the floor and install a snap, being mindful as always of > how the screen meets the floor, and also being mindful that that screen is > pulled a little bit tight� from side to side.� Continue working your way up > the leading edge.� When you get towards the top, it gets to be a bit of a > headache.� The inward travel of the upper door track creates a 3 > dimensional demand on a 2 dimensional surface, and there's no way that > you're going to make it look pretty.� Just play around with it and install > snaps in such a way as to minimize gaps in the screen. > > The job takes a while, but it's really not too bad once you're underway. > And the results are fantabulous!� When you have the hatch open, sliding > door open, and top popped open, all with screens, you have great > ventilation & views with no bugs(okay, at least not too many bugs).� It > really creates a spacious feel > > > Brett > > > > Brett in Portland, OR > "Albert" '82 VanaFox I4 Riviera -- David McNeely
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