True for the camper too. Now that I have my son's '87 Westy parked next to my '85 Westy I can see a huge difference in the front height.  Something to add to the to-do list.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 4:54 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: '85 springs to a 90GL?

in my experience all 85 Weekenders have too-tall front springs .
I replace them with 85 GL front springs and they sit level then.

IMO..it's not that the rear sags..
it's that the front is almost 2 inches taller due to the front springs being too tall.

On 11/5/2014 11:54 AM, Dan N wrote:
> since we talk about springs...
>
> I have one '85 weekender with poptop (no kitchen) and the rear sags 
> quite bad...
>
> I have another '85 tintop and the rear doesn't sag at all.. btw it's 
> quite high... higher than my Carat but lower than my Syncro... just in 
> the middle...
>
> errr... so why's the difference? did they put different springs for 
> the same '85 year?
>
> dan
>
> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tony Collins <tonycollin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Cc
>> I would have even Steven swaped my 85 springs for the lower springs 
>> of carats or later vanagons.
>>
>> Just putting that out there. Maybe the
>>
>> Sent from my iPod
>>
>> On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:37 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> wrote:
>>
>>> At 12:18 PM 11/5/2014, Nij.tp.vanaru wrote:
>>>> ebay seemed like the logical thing to do.  Are there any additional 
>>>> suspension/alignment changes that need to take place when I add 
>>>> these springs??  I'm also going ot swap the PS rack for a manual 
>>>> duringthe same procedure and replace the upper ball joints, so an 
>>>> alignment is pretty much a given. TIA DM&FS
>>> If you do take out the PS -- the difference in low-speed steering 
>>> effort between 205- and 185- tires is tremendous.  I found parallel 
>>> parking quite a struggle with the 205s.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> David