

| Subject: | Re: Assessing CV joints? |
| From: | Don Hanson |
| Date: | Sat, 8 Nov 2014 07:50:19 -0800 |
Thank you I jacked up each wheel and ran in in gear in the air. listening....Very smooth and quiet sounding, unlike last time I had a bad CV or wheel bearing, when it sounded bad. I think things at the rear are fine for now... During my inspection I found one of my upper control arm bushings is shot and also my other side front wheel bearing sounds and feels a bit worn... On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > CV rarely fail suddenly and even when they get noisy you usually still > have time. Grease is actually a lousy lubricant. It is the oil absorbed in > the soap base that does the work and the Moly stuff n CV grease provides > boundary lubrication when the oil is not there. If your joints are loaded > with gear oil that is a lubrication upgrade except over time it will eat > the boots. Properly packed CV joints do not have grease or oil in the boots. > > That said you ca check the joints for radial play, some is normal but if > you can grab the outer edge and get much more that an 1/8" rotary play > before moving the axle the joint is wearing out. Most of those play will be > in the dent the balls form in the inner and outer races. The clicking > noises usually heard are from a combination of the lubricant failing and > the balls working in and out of the edges of those dents. > > Do be sure to use a torque wrench on those CV bolts and they should > probably be replaced. Over the years I have seen many that came loose and > the wheel or transmission flange can get damaged. It is very difficult to > drill a new set of holes and get them right. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Don Hanson > Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 12:08 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Assessing CV joints? > > Is there an easier way to get an idea of the CV joint's condition without > taking it off the tranny? > > What I've got going is.... I am about to put the van up on stands and do > everything I can see to do under it before I begin what usually is a few > months and maybe 4k miles of winter time travel to (hopefully) warmer dryer > places ( 84 van with a 5sp and an inline 2.0 liter ABA (hybrid)) I have > been under there recently and more frequently than normal this > summer...first with a couple of wiring issues and then with a (related to > the wire issues) output shaft (axle) seal that was spewing gear oil on my > O2 sensor wires... > The axle had been leaking for a month or maybe two, but the leak got > bigger till I began to worry about the gearbox...so I replaced that axle > seal, finally. The adjacent (driver's side) CV boot was full of nice > blue Swepco gear oil mixed with the CV grease...So.... In went the new > seal. I pulled back that CV boot and fished all the runny grease out and > repacked it with fresh...all while on the vehicle..... but I decided to > make sure it was in there properly before re-filling the transaxle with the > expensive Swepco that I use...so I topped it up and drove it now for about > a month...no leaks.... > I'd really like to just put the van on the stands and start her up and > listen for possible problems everywhere, without taking apart those nasty > axles. My plan is to roll that drivers boot back and scoop out all that > grease again and again repack that CV..but is there a way to wiggle it, > pull and push the axle or listen as it spins with a tube or a stick? Or > something to avoid having to remove all the hexes again and deal with that > whole mess again....properly, I know....but again and as usual...my time is > limited....and I do have two spares in my parts bin that go along with > me...so > I've changed the fuel pump and the filters. I've checked the hoses and > the clamps and the single belt. I bled the brakes when I put in a new > clutch slave. I checked the pads and shoes. Tires are still good, even > my off brand Go Forms, bought about 10k ago for $50 each and showing no > wear yet. > So what is left is the wheel bearings and the CVs...and anything else?.. >
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