

| Subject: | Re: Suspension for Off Roading |
| From: | Dan N |
| Date: | Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:15:47 -0800 |
14" wheel with higher-profile tires will give you a final diameter same as a 15" wheel I use 27x8.5LT14 and the diameter is the same as s 205/65R15C On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Eric Wunrow <VW@ericwunrow.com> wrote: > Ahhh… I get it now. > > Thanks, > > Eric > Eric Wunrow Pictures > 85 S Union Blvd, #Q123 > Lakewood, CO 80228 > > 303. 988. 8717 > VW@EricWunrow.com > > > > > On Nov 16, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > As the suspension moves the outer part of the bushing turns with the > control arm. If there is too much friction between the outer and inner > parts then that movement will force the inner to turn and that can loosen > the nut. The nut should be an all metal prevailing torque lock nut so it > will only loosen a bit. Once it loosens the shaft can then turn moving the > eccentric washers which will change the camber. Chances to Caster or Camber > will affect the Toe alignment. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > From: Eric Wunrow [mailto:VW@EricWunrow.com] > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 3:35 PM > > To: Dennis Haynes > > Subject: Re: Suspension for Off Roading > > > > Thanks, Dennis, really appreciate your insights! > > > > > > That's what I'd thought, i.e., bad control arm bushings. Why those would > loosen the upper control arm bolt is still a mystery to me, am I missing > something??? > > > > My plan is to price labor on replacing the bushings, as in cases like > this I'll have all four done so they're all good to go awhile. I paid a > former friend in Denver to rebuild the entire front end and paid dearly for > that, only to discover later he hadn't done those bushings nor the ones on > the sway bar end — so I'll have those done as well… IF I don't upgrade the > suspension. Once I price replacements described, I will get a quote on an > upgrade. > > > > That said, still wondering what my upgrade options are? > > > > Per 'stiffer shocks,' you're right, don't want that. I'm researching how > to soften the ride for absorbing washboards and shocks to the suspension, > maybe a spring that increases stiffness upon compression, like the off-road > racers do. Though I still plan to go slowly and enjoy the view. :-) > > > > > > Thanks Again! > > > > Eric > > Eric Wunrow Pictures > > 85 S Union Blvd, #Q123 > > Lakewood, CO 80228 > > > > 303. 988. 8717 > > VW@EricWunrow.com > > > > > > <image001.gif> > > > > On Nov 15, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > > > The Vanagon suspension generally holds up very well to abuse. The top > > control bushings coming loose is a sign you have bushings that are > bunched > > up and seized. This is fairly common. Replacing them is the fix. As an > > upgrade you can try the T3 Techniques bushings. I did have one fail after > > short usage on Fun Bus and Chris did not hesitate to replace the set for > me. > > Unfortunately as the one failed down in Florida by the time I got home > and > > realized what happened the front pair of tires were destroyed. > > > > While stiffer shocks may seem like a solution they can make things worse. > > They can heat up more and any abuse not taken by the tires, shocks, or > > springs will just go to destroying the chassis or vehicle. The energy > has to > > go somewhere. The advantage of the fox shocks is the remote reservoir. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of > > Eric Wunrow > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:47 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Suspension for Off Roading > > > > Hello: > > > > > > I thought about posting this on the Samba but you all seem a bit more > civil. > > and helpful. > > > > > > We are traveling full-time in a 1984 Westy we bought just months before > > leaving, and are about to end Month 16. Challenging, yes. and perhaps > equal > > parts commendable and committable. But we are in for the long haul. > > > > I have had four alignments done in 12K miles. At first I thought the > > mechanics weren't torquing the right upper control arm enough, as it > keeps > > coming loose and knocking toe way out. last time it was over AN INCH out, > > and now a few hundred miles later, it's out again and baking our new BFG > > ATs. Ugh. > > > > The easiest solution seems to be replacing the control arm bolts, as I do > > not think Loctite will solve it in the proper way. But, if the arms need > to > > come off anyway, and possibly new bushings are needed as well, what are > my > > options for upgrading the suspension for constant dirt travel? I saw a > gray > > panel Synchro at Buses by the Bridge in January with Fox shocks and it > > looked like a great solution. I am willing to trade highway comfort for > off > > road softness before parts start flying off at will. > > > > We hope to keep our Bus forever, and though we are short of funds I do > not > > necessarily want a quick fix. We have to rely on this Thing (Ahem, sorry, > > Bus) for a long time and may take it around the globe. So anything I can > do > > for the long-term good is of prime interest, and getting to remote > places is > > partly why we live in it. > > > > Also, if you know of anyone in So. Cal. or near Yuma capable of this work > > (where we're wintering), I'm all ears. I found a cooperative tire store > > owner in Pahrump who owns a few Vanagons, but have yet to ask if such an > > upgrade is within his realm. > > > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > > > Eric > > Eric Wunrow Pictures > > 85 S Union Blvd, #Q123 > > Lakewood, CO 80228 > > > > 303. 988. 8717 > > VW@EricWunrow.com > > > > >
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