I'm a diesel guy, and that behavior drives me crazy.  My neighbor's dad
will stop by and idle his Dodge Cummins for long stretches of time...for no
reason.  I'm sure there was a rationale for this stuff years ago, but it's
pointless on modern diesels.  I fire up my diesels, and immediately drive
them like I stole 'em.  Idling is the devil's dirty work

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> Ok, but do they need to be left idling for hours on end?  I'm talking
> about personal vehicles, not giant tractors.  I do see them that way,
> including a GM pickup yesterday.  mcneely
>
> ---- KI4TLF <ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Yes and no.  The larger truck diesels can be, but it's like a
> turbocharged gas engine.  Best to let them run for 1 to 3 minutes depending
> on the outside temperature.  Same for shutdown.
> >
> > Cold weather you need to get the oil circulating through the turbo as it
> warms up from the engine and exhaust heat.  With some of the new variable
> vane turbos, they can spin faster with less exhaust pressure, so the need
> for oil circulation is more critical.  That's one of the reasons for the
> lower viscosity synthetic oil.
> >
> > That being said, unless it's one of the newer diesel trucks with the
> shutters in front of the radiator, they still have problems with real cold
> weather getting warm.   I'm running a sheet of cardboard in front of my
> radiator, but behind the intercooler.
> >
> > GregM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Dave Mcneely
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:24 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: New diesel from VW
> >
> > Just yesterday I was on my daily walk and passed by a giant diesel
> pickup parked by the curb with a big "camping" trailer (portable house)
> behind it.  The engine was running.  An hour later I passed it again.
> Still there, still running.
> >
> > I know that diesel engines in the old days were hard to start, took a
> good long while to heat up, and ran inefficiently until fully hot.  But
> that isn't true now, is it?  Aren't automotive diesel engines supposed to
> fire right up and be driven away immediately, like gasoline engines?
> >
> > mcneely
> >
> > ---- "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> wrote:
> > > diesels might be outlawed ????
> > > that is fantastic news !!!
> > >
> > > ( wouldn't be so bad if people would shut the damn things off ! )
> > >
> > > lol..where I am diesel fuel is almost 5 dollars a gallon.
> > > and fortunately not many diesel cars.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/17/2014 8:33 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
> > > > When diesels are outlawed, only outlaws will have diesels.
> > > >
> > > > Outlaw Jim
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>    If Obama came out in favor of the English system, we'd have
> > > >> metric in a Heartbeat.....If Obama said diesels should be
> > > >> regulated, we would have them in all our vehicles, just like the
> rest of the world...
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> ---- "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > > >>>> I would love to see an affordable TDI in my Vanagon. Wait, what
> > > >>>> is that
> > > >>> spooling woosh sound?  Ah, that's sound of the V8 becoming
> obsolete.
> > > >>>> Word is that we will see this engine stateside as soon as the
> > > >>>> metric
> > > >>> system is adopted as the US standard.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Well, that's not going to happen.  Don't you know that the metric
> > > >>> system is a part of the socialist takeover plan for the U.S.?  lol
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Chris.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Wysłane z iPhone'a
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Dnia Nov 16, 2014 o godz. 22:52 John Rodgers
> > > >>>> <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
> > > >>> napisał(a):
> > > >>>>> A new 2.0 L four cyl 269 hp engine has just been shown by VW.
> > > >>>>> And the
> > > >>> thing
> > > >>>>> gets 40-50 mpg.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thats all i can tell you right now. Saw a picture of it an its
> > > >>>>> little monster .
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> John
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> David McNeely
> > > >>>
> >
> > --
> > David McNeely
>
> --
> David McNeely
>

-- 
Casey