Don't get me started. We once had a chrysler minivan that ALWAYS locked all
the doors if the motor was running after a minute or so. I had AAA on speed
dial. I'm told it's a feature. It's much harder to lock yourself out of a
vanagon. Is it possible? I love all the places to hide a key box, too.

Jim

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net> wrote:

> ---- Stephen Engel <sengel543@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > It's not just diesels, but gas vehicles too. I guess there is a way to
> leave your vehicle running and lock it. It seems that at almost any given
> time in store parking lots there is some car running with no one inside. I
> assume they're wanting to keep the a/c or heat going.
>
> My Prius sets up a squealing fuss if one tries to lock it with the key fob
> inside, and won't implement the lock command.  But that's a Toyota built on
> purpose to be "high tech."  Actually seems silly.  I might want to lock a
> key fob inside.  If they made it the way they did, they could make it to
> detect if a key fob is also outside (the lock switch is on the door).  But
> I think most vehicles can be locked while running.  I know that those that
> use a normal mechanical key can be.
>
> mcneely
>
> >
> > Steve
> > 87 Syncro
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:00 PM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, but do they need to be left idling for hours on end?  I'm talking
> about personal vehicles, not giant tractors.  I do see them that way,
> including a GM pickup yesterday.  mcneely
> > >
> > > ---- KI4TLF <ki4tlf@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >> Yes and no.  The larger truck diesels can be, but it's like a
> turbocharged gas engine.  Best to let them run for 1 to 3 minutes depending
> on the outside temperature.  Same for shutdown.
> > >>
> > >> Cold weather you need to get the oil circulating through the turbo as
> it warms up from the engine and exhaust heat.  With some of the new
> variable vane turbos, they can spin faster with less exhaust pressure, so
> the need for oil circulation is more critical.  That's one of the reasons
> for the lower viscosity synthetic oil.
> > >>
> > >> That being said, unless it's one of the newer diesel trucks with the
> shutters in front of the radiator, they still have problems with real cold
> weather getting warm.   I'm running a sheet of cardboard in front of my
> radiator, but behind the intercooler.
> > >>
> > >> GregM
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:24 AM
> > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >> Subject: Re: New diesel from VW
> > >>
> > >> Just yesterday I was on my daily walk and passed by a giant diesel
> pickup parked by the curb with a big "camping" trailer (portable house)
> behind it.  The engine was running.  An hour later I passed it again.
> Still there, still running.
> > >>
> > >> I know that diesel engines in the old days were hard to start, took a
> good long while to heat up, and ran inefficiently until fully hot.  But
> that isn't true now, is it?  Aren't automotive diesel engines supposed to
> fire right up and be driven away immediately, like gasoline engines?
> > >>
> > >> mcneely
> > >>
> > >> ---- "SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott )" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> wrote:
> > >>> diesels might be outlawed ????
> > >>> that is fantastic news !!!
> > >>>
> > >>> ( wouldn't be so bad if people would shut the damn things off ! )
> > >>>
> > >>> lol..where I am diesel fuel is almost 5 dollars a gallon.
> > >>> and fortunately not many diesel cars.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/17/2014 8:33 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
> > >>>> When diesels are outlawed, only outlaws will have diesels.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Outlaw Jim
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>   If Obama came out in favor of the English system, we'd have
> > >>>>> metric in a Heartbeat.....If Obama said diesels should be
> > >>>>> regulated, we would have them in all our vehicles, just like the
> rest of the world...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@cox.net>
> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ---- "Chris S." <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I would love to see an affordable TDI in my Vanagon. Wait, what
> > >>>>>>> is that
> > >>>>>> spooling woosh sound?  Ah, that's sound of the V8 becoming
> obsolete.
> > >>>>>>> Word is that we will see this engine stateside as soon as the
> > >>>>>>> metric
> > >>>>>> system is adopted as the US standard.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Well, that's not going to happen.  Don't you know that the metric
> > >>>>>> system is a part of the socialist takeover plan for the U.S.?  lol
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Chris.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Wysłane z iPhone'a
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Dnia Nov 16, 2014 o godz. 22:52 John Rodgers
> > >>>>>>> <jrodgers113@GMAIL.COM>
> > >>>>>> napisał(a):
> > >>>>>>>> A new 2.0 L four cyl 269 hp engine has just been shown by VW.
> > >>>>>>>> And the
> > >>>>>> thing
> > >>>>>>>> gets 40-50 mpg.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thats all i can tell you right now. Saw a picture of it an its
> > >>>>>>>> little monster .
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> John
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> David McNeely
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> David McNeely
> > >
> > > --
> > > David McNeely
>
> --
> David McNeely
>