

| Subject: | Re: Suspension for Off Roading |
| From: | Dan N |
| Date: | Sun, 16 Nov 2014 07:43:15 -0800 |
Yes I do deflate the tires when I do off road - usually I take out 10psi and 15psi on sand - in any case I leave a minimum 20psi. As Dennis mentioned there's a risk of damage to tires specially on the side wall if the road has a lot sharp rocks such as the one from Ubehe Crater to the Race Track in Death Valley. I always carry a 12V air pump, off road or not. On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: > Off roaders will air down the tires to improve traction and reduce sinking > on soft dirt, mud, and sand. As the pressure is lowered the contact patch > increases. They will often air down low enough that the sidewalls can also > provide a floatation effect, 12-16psi is common. The down side of this is > an increased chance of rolling the bead off the rim and having a tire > completely air out and hitting any type of sharp object can damage a tire > internally. Note this approach is for low speed operation. > > You didn't say what tire you are using, size or type, If using a regular > passenger tire you reach full capacity at ~35 psi. Above that you are going > for handling or reduced rolling resistance. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Stan Shapiro > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:14 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Suspension for Off Roading > > Another question on suspension. I have a 90 Westy, 16 in wheels, > Michelin tires, and Bilstein shocks from GoWesty. It is terrible on > washboard roads. I notice the 4 wheelers let air out of their tires > before going off road. Does anyone have any experience in letting a > small amount of air out for a washboard road?? If so, how much do you > let out? Do you carry a 12 volt compressor to refill? > > Thanks > Stan > Idaho > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Chris S. > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 2:58 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Suspension for Off Roading > > See Burley Motorsports' custom upper control arms that eliminate the > finicky bushings. Also, for a good off road ride you may consider > progressive long travel springs. I have Schwenk springs on my Syncro and > they are wonderful. > > Chris. > > Wysłane z iPhone'a > > Dnia Nov 15, 2014 o godz. 14:47 Eric Wunrow <VW@ERICWUNROW.COM> > napisał(a): > > > Hello: > > > > > > I thought about posting this on the Samba but you all seem a bit more > civil… and helpful. > > > > > > We are traveling full-time in a 1984 Westy we bought just months before > leaving, and are about to end Month 16. Challenging, yes… and perhaps equal > parts commendable and committable. But we are in for the long haul. > > > > I have had four alignments done in 12K miles. At first I thought the > mechanics weren't torquing the right upper control arm enough, as it keeps > coming loose and knocking toe way out… last time it was over AN INCH out, > and now a few hundred miles later, it's out again and baking our new BFG > ATs. Ugh. > > > > The easiest solution seems to be replacing the control arm bolts, as I > do not think Loctite will solve it in the proper way. But, if the arms need > to come off anyway, and possibly new bushings are needed as well, what are > my options for upgrading the suspension for constant dirt travel? I saw a > gray panel Synchro at Buses by the Bridge in January with Fox shocks and it > looked like a great solution. I am willing to trade highway comfort for off > road softness before parts start flying off at will. > > > > We hope to keep our Bus forever, and though we are short of funds I do > not necessarily want a quick fix. We have to rely on this Thing (Ahem, > sorry, Bus) for a long time and may take it around the globe. So anything I > can do for the long-term good is of prime interest, and getting to remote > places is partly why we live in it. > > > > Also, if you know of anyone in So. Cal. or near Yuma capable of this > work (where we're wintering), I'm all ears. I found a cooperative tire > store owner in Pahrump who owns a few Vanagons, but have yet to ask if such > an upgrade is within his realm. > > > > > > Thanks in Advance, > > > > Eric > > Eric Wunrow Pictures > > 85 S Union Blvd, #Q123 > > Lakewood, CO 80228 > > > > 303. 988. 8717 > > VW@EricWunrow.com >
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