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Subject:Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
From:Dennis Jowell
Date:Tue, 9 Dec 2014 06:22:39 -0500

Returned the unit to Lowes and got another one just to,see,if it was a bad unit. Tried it again on the generator and no luck. Called their company support. That was a complete waste of time. Another story. Going to try another  approach. Install larger cables on the generator right now I have 16 gauge wire to the ground and to the positive side of the starter  solenoid. Why this would make a difference I don't know but these jump starter units can't be that bad? Trying to justify the 80 mile round trip to Lowes! 

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
West Newbury, Vermont 

> On Dec 7, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I've been eyeing the Lowe's unit also.  Very attractive price, but not if the item does not work.  Thanks for the report.
> 
> Stephen
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 12/7/14, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 4:39 PM
> 
> Got my jump starter last week at
> Lowes on a holiday sale for $79. Thought I would test it
> today on my Honda generator. Perfect weather for a test it
> is 7 above out.The unit is a Pilot Jump Starter/charger
> #753361. When I hooked the cables as per instructions It
> would not turn anything over it kept saying my polarity is
> backwards. As always red to + black to -
> So I pulled out my JNC 300xl hooked up the cables the same
> way and the generator started right up. Perfect. The pilot
> is going back. I was hoping for a smaller unit that would
> work to travel with in my Westy.
> Dennis Jowell
> Scotch Hollow Farm
> West Newbury, Vermont 
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mine came with some brief instructions but no
> information at all about the
>> technology used nor cranking amps or whatever. It seems
> that when they are
>> discussed the general consensus is that they couldn't
> work as well as they
>> do.
>> 
>> I wonder if you could hook one up along side a deep
> cycle battery to charge
>> while you were running, then this thing would actually
> do most of the work
>> of starting the car? That way you could have your cake
> and eat it too, with
>> just one battery.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How many cold crank amps can those things possibly
> pack? Why aren't we
>>> using them for starting batteries if they work that
> well?
>>> 
>>> Dark magic, indeed.
>>> 
>>> Jack Elliott
>>> 1984 Westfalia
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This subject came up a couple of weeks ago, I
> think on this list.  The
>>> new,
>>>> very small/compact jump start batteries.
>>>> Well, I got a chance yesterday to try on. 
> On a very dead battery in my
>>> '90
>>>> T-Bird.  And the darn thing worked! 
> Actually three times!  And according
>>>> to the meter on the thing it was only pulled
> down about 20%.
>>>> One of these:
>>>> <
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-G03-Emergency-14000mAh-Saunsung/dp/B00KCBCXKC/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1417808523&sr=1-1&keywords=spirit+battery
>>>> 
>>>> So, I'm impressed.
>>>