

| Subject: | Re: Final Oil pressure result-expected coolant losses. |
| From: | Dennis Jowell |
| Date: | Mon, 8 Dec 2014 06:13:53 -0500 |
To late in the year now to test the coolant thermostat. Winter has arrived on the mountain. 8 below And a foot of snow on the ground. Putting our Westy to bed. The mice will be getting back their home. Dennis Dennis Jowell Scotch Hollow Farm West Newbury, Vermont > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:27 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > > There are 16 cups to a gallon. 2 cups/month is 1.5 gallons/year. That is a > leak, not normal consumption. At that rate you should never need to change > the coolant as it is getting replaced about 2.5 years. Regular additions of > coolant are actually bad for a system for a number of reasons. While I agree > that coolant level should be checked frequently there should only be a > minimal loss. The only expected loss should be evaporation from the overflow > tank. > > Dennis > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) > Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 7:15 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Final Oil pressure result > > At least look behind the license plate at that bottle. > > if all is normal..coolant will be a couple inches deep at least in there. > ( I have seen *many* of them pretty low or empty .. > most vanagons in my experiencing use coolant slightly .. > say cup or two a month . ) > > if the guy opened up the system .. > and the cap on the pressure bottle is working like it should ( not always a > give ) you may find the license plate bottle low or empty. > > > >> On 12/6/2014 1:26 PM, Dennis Jowell wrote: >> Thanks for the quick update on my oil pressure. I'll talk them about this > and check the coolant level tomorrow . >> >> Dennis Jowell >> Scotch Hollow Farm >> West Newbury, Vermont >> >> >>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) > <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >>> >>> perfect oil pressure readings. >>> >>> find out if any coolant pipes were touched working on the oil pump. >>> if the cooling system was opened up .. >>> sounds like something is going on .. >>> like air in the system. >>> >>> I have never ever seen a t-stat itself make gauge reading swings.. >>> right now I'd say cooling system not bled propery. ( usually not a >>> big deal either ) >>> >>> or possible gauge weirdness. >>> >>> >>>> On 12/5/2014 1:57 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote: >>>> OK here are the final results of Noah reworking the oil pressure > syndrome problem on my 88 Westy. Drove 200 miles yesterday on the interstate > and back to the farm. >>>> >>>> 65 mph, 3200 rpm's, 42 psi. >>>> At idle 12 psi >>>> I think this is all within acceptable parameters ? Any thoughts ? >>>> What was done was to replace and add the correct gaskets and sealant at > the oil pump and flange cover etc. that was the problem. >>>> Thanks to all of you with your suggestions, they helped in diagnosing > the problem. >>>> >>>> One almost final note is that during my test drive of yesterday I > noticed that the thermostat now has swings of up to 60% range down to 20% > range on the gauge. Before I dropped it off to Noah the gauge was constant > at 50%. Is this coincidental or just another new problem? Could something > been unplugged during the oil pump problem? I'll look at the coolant level > this morning. The weather may warm a bit its 2 below now. >>>> >>>> Thanks for all the help >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> Dennis Jowell >>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 6:41:36 AM EST >>>>> To: Noah VW Repair Crowther <craigsvwrepair@yahoo.com> >>>>> Subject: Fwd: Oil pressure ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> >>>>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 1:37:05 AM EST >>>>>> To: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I bet the oil pump gasket is the problem. Well that sounds arrogant > and assured, but if the oil pressure problem arose after the gasket > replacement.... >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd go back to the no gasket set up, using the loctite anerobic gasket > goo. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>> >>>>>> Alistair >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The seal that was replaced was the pulley seal close to the oil pump > cover and that seal area was also resealed. Noah's shop also added a small > gasket at the pump cover which had none except a silicone type sealant was > used from GOWESTY. I tried 2 different OP blue pressure switches with the > same results happening. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 12:22 AM, Dennis Haynes > <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be concerned that the problem started after replacing the > rear seal. >>>>>>>>> I would also be concerned that the seal had to be replaced on a new > engine. >>>>>>>>> Something is wrong. Are we talking the rear seal as in the >>>>>>>>> pulley seal or the flywheel seal? Or was is the oil pump cover >>>>>>>>> seal? Then I would suspect the wrong gasket was installed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One thing I would do is get the rear oil pressure switch from the > dealer. >>>>>>>>> The aftermarket ones including the OEM looking Meyle stuff is >>>>>>>>> junk and they are all over the place. The newer dealer switches >>>>>>>>> have also been redesigned with more band between setting on and > releasing to help prevent the falsies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:00 PM >>>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> New filter, oil is 20w50 NAPA, oil level is slightly less than >>>>>>>>> 1/2 on the stick. Pressure does rise off idle. Not to sure if >>>>>>>>> oil cooler is working or how to check it out. It was 20 out >>>>>>>>> during the 80 mile trip back an forth from the farm. Could >>>>>>>>> there be an oil pump problem on the new 2.2 engine? The oil >>>>>>>>> pump pressure was tested by Noah when the rear seal started to >>>>>>>>> leak and he replaced the seal. Then the trouble with the light/ > buzzer syndrome started. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Dennis Haynes >>>>>>>>>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What viscosity oil are you using? 22 psi at 3,600 RPM is low >>>>>>>>> especially for a new engine. Any chance you are over filling it? >>>>>>>>> Clogged or otherwise restricted filter? Is the oil cooler >>>>>>>>> working? The >>>>>>>>> 6 psi at idle is also low but not that uncommon Pressure should >>>>>>>>> rise quickly above idle. 28 psi at >>>>>>>>> 3800 is considered a wear limit unless there are extenuating >>>>>>>>> circumstances such as after a prolonged high speed drive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] >>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:50 PM >>>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Oil pressure ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After installing my new VDO electric oil gauge I finally took >>>>>>>>> my 88 Westy out this afternoon for a test ride. Driving the >>>>>>>>> interstate at 65 mph, oil is at 22 psi, drove for another 40 >>>>>>>>> miles down to the exit ramp and oil pressure light/buzzer goes off > at the end of the ramp. >>>>>>>>> PSI was at 6 at 900 rpm's. Is this common? Or is there a >>>>>>>>> problem with my new GOWESTY engine that has 3000+ miles on it ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
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