The pilot started my ATV with the battery out yesterday. Going to NAPA to pickup 6 gauge wire for the generator to test if that is the problem why the pilot won't start the generator. I'll be back.

Dennis Jowell
Scotch Hollow Farm
West Newbury, Vermont 

> On Dec 9, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have one of these and it works fine.  16 ga wire for the solenoid seems a
> bit light, but it's probably a very short distance from the switch.  The
> Pilot may just not have enough oomph, your JNC 300xl that did work is 900
> amps peak power, vs. 400 for the Pilot. Big difference, especially at 7
> degrees.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Dennis Jowell
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:23 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
> 
> Returned the unit to Lowes and got another one just to,see,if it was a bad
> unit. Tried it again on the generator and no luck. Called their company
> support. That was a complete waste of time. Another story. Going to try
> another  approach. Install larger cables on the generator right now I have
> 16 gauge wire to the ground and to the positive side of the starter
> solenoid. Why this would make a difference I don't know but these jump
> starter units can't be that bad? Trying to justify the 80 mile round trip to
> Lowes! 
> 
> Dennis Jowell
> Scotch Hollow Farm
> West Newbury, Vermont 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 7, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been eyeing the Lowe's unit also.  Very attractive price, but not if
> the item does not work.  Thanks for the report.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 12/7/14, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Subject: Re: A New Look In Jumper Batteries
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Date: Sunday, December 7, 2014, 4:39 PM
>> 
>> Got my jump starter last week at
>> Lowes on a holiday sale for $79. Thought I would test it today on my 
>> Honda generator. Perfect weather for a test it is 7 above out.The unit 
>> is a Pilot Jump Starter/charger #753361. When I hooked the cables as 
>> per instructions It would not turn anything over it kept saying my 
>> polarity is backwards. As always red to + black to - So I pulled out 
>> my JNC 300xl hooked up the cables the same way and the generator 
>> started right up. Perfect. The pilot is going back. I was hoping for a 
>> smaller unit that would work to travel with in my Westy.
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> West Newbury, Vermont
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mine came with some brief instructions but no
>> information at all about the
>>> technology used nor cranking amps or whatever. It seems
>> that when they are
>>> discussed the general consensus is that they couldn't
>> work as well as they
>>> do.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if you could hook one up along side a deep
>> cycle battery to charge
>>> while you were running, then this thing would actually
>> do most of the work
>>> of starting the car? That way you could have your cake
>> and eat it too, with
>>> just one battery.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Vanagon <camping.elliott@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How many cold crank amps can those things possibly
>> pack? Why aren't we
>>>> using them for starting batteries if they work that
>> well?
>>>> 
>>>> Dark magic, indeed.
>>>> 
>>>> Jack Elliott
>>>> 1984 Westfalia
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Loren Busch <starwagen@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This subject came up a couple of weeks ago, I
>> think on this list.  The
>>>> new,
>>>>> very small/compact jump start batteries.
>>>>> Well, I got a chance yesterday to try on. 
>> On a very dead battery in my
>>>> '90
>>>>> T-Bird.  And the darn thing worked! 
>> Actually three times!  And according
>>>>> to the meter on the thing it was only pulled
>> down about 20%.
>>>>> One of these:
>>>>> <
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-G03-Emergency-14000mAh-Saunsung/dp/B00K
>>>> CBCXKC/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1417808523&sr=1-1&keyword
>>>> s=spirit+battery
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, I'm impressed.
>>>> 
>