

| Subject: | Re: Final Oil pressure result-expected coolant losses. |
| From: | Dennis Haynes |
| Date: | Mon, 8 Dec 2014 00:27:14 -0500 |
There are 16 cups to a gallon. 2 cups/month is 1.5 gallons/year. That is a leak, not normal consumption. At that rate you should never need to change the coolant as it is getting replaced about 2.5 years. Regular additions of coolant are actually bad for a system for a number of reasons. While I agree that coolant level should be checked frequently there should only be a minimal loss. The only expected loss should be evaporation from the overflow tank. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 7:15 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Final Oil pressure result At least look behind the license plate at that bottle. if all is normal..coolant will be a couple inches deep at least in there. ( I have seen *many* of them pretty low or empty .. most vanagons in my experiencing use coolant slightly .. say cup or two a month . ) if the guy opened up the system .. and the cap on the pressure bottle is working like it should ( not always a give ) you may find the license plate bottle low or empty. On 12/6/2014 1:26 PM, Dennis Jowell wrote: > Thanks for the quick update on my oil pressure. I'll talk them about this and check the coolant level tomorrow . > > Dennis Jowell > Scotch Hollow Farm > West Newbury, Vermont > > >> On Dec 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, SDF ( aka ;jim lahey' - Scott ) <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: >> >> perfect oil pressure readings. >> >> find out if any coolant pipes were touched working on the oil pump. >> if the cooling system was opened up .. >> sounds like something is going on .. >> like air in the system. >> >> I have never ever seen a t-stat itself make gauge reading swings.. >> right now I'd say cooling system not bled propery. ( usually not a >> big deal either ) >> >> or possible gauge weirdness. >> >> >>> On 12/5/2014 1:57 AM, Dennis Jowell wrote: >>> OK here are the final results of Noah reworking the oil pressure syndrome problem on my 88 Westy. Drove 200 miles yesterday on the interstate and back to the farm. >>> >>> 65 mph, 3200 rpm's, 42 psi. >>> At idle 12 psi >>> I think this is all within acceptable parameters ? Any thoughts ? >>> What was done was to replace and add the correct gaskets and sealant at the oil pump and flange cover etc. that was the problem. >>> Thanks to all of you with your suggestions, they helped in diagnosing the problem. >>> >>> One almost final note is that during my test drive of yesterday I noticed that the thermostat now has swings of up to 60% range down to 20% range on the gauge. Before I dropped it off to Noah the gauge was constant at 50%. Is this coincidental or just another new problem? Could something been unplugged during the oil pump problem? I'll look at the coolant level this morning. The weather may warm a bit its 2 below now. >>> >>> Thanks for all the help >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> Dennis Jowell >>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@gmail.com> >>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 6:41:36 AM EST >>>> To: Noah VW Repair Crowther <craigsvwrepair@yahoo.com> >>>> Subject: Fwd: Oil pressure ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dennis Jowell >>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> >>>>> Date: November 24, 2014 at 1:37:05 AM EST >>>>> To: Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> >>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ? >>>>> >>>>> I bet the oil pump gasket is the problem. Well that sounds arrogant and assured, but if the oil pressure problem arose after the gasket replacement.... >>>>> >>>>> I'd go back to the no gasket set up, using the loctite anerobic gasket goo. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> >>>>> Alistair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, Dennis Jowell <dennisjowell@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The seal that was replaced was the pulley seal close to the oil pump cover and that seal area was also resealed. Noah's shop also added a small gasket at the pump cover which had none except a silicone type sealant was used from GOWESTY. I tried 2 different OP blue pressure switches with the same results happening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2014, at 12:22 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be concerned that the problem started after replacing the rear seal. >>>>>>>> I would also be concerned that the seal had to be replaced on a new engine. >>>>>>>> Something is wrong. Are we talking the rear seal as in the >>>>>>>> pulley seal or the flywheel seal? Or was is the oil pump cover >>>>>>>> seal? Then I would suspect the wrong gasket was installed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing I would do is get the rear oil pressure switch from the dealer. >>>>>>>> The aftermarket ones including the OEM looking Meyle stuff is >>>>>>>> junk and they are all over the place. The newer dealer switches >>>>>>>> have also been redesigned with more band between setting on and releasing to help prevent the falsies. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:00 PM >>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Oil pressure ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> New filter, oil is 20w50 NAPA, oil level is slightly less than >>>>>>>> 1/2 on the stick. Pressure does rise off idle. Not to sure if >>>>>>>> oil cooler is working or how to check it out. It was 20 out >>>>>>>> during the 80 mile trip back an forth from the farm. Could >>>>>>>> there be an oil pump problem on the new 2.2 engine? The oil >>>>>>>> pump pressure was tested by Noah when the rear seal started to >>>>>>>> leak and he replaced the seal. Then the trouble with the light/ buzzer syndrome started. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2014, at 6:42 PM, Dennis Haynes >>>>>>>>> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What viscosity oil are you using? 22 psi at 3,600 RPM is low >>>>>>>> especially for a new engine. Any chance you are over filling it? >>>>>>>> Clogged or otherwise restricted filter? Is the oil cooler >>>>>>>> working? The >>>>>>>> 6 psi at idle is also low but not that uncommon Pressure should >>>>>>>> rise quickly above idle. 28 psi at >>>>>>>> 3800 is considered a wear limit unless there are extenuating >>>>>>>> circumstances such as after a prolonged high speed drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:50 PM >>>>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>>>>>>> Subject: Oil pressure ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After installing my new VDO electric oil gauge I finally took >>>>>>>> my 88 Westy out this afternoon for a test ride. Driving the >>>>>>>> interstate at 65 mph, oil is at 22 psi, drove for another 40 >>>>>>>> miles down to the exit ramp and oil pressure light/buzzer goes off at the end of the ramp. >>>>>>>> PSI was at 6 at 900 rpm's. Is this common? Or is there a >>>>>>>> problem with my new GOWESTY engine that has 3000+ miles on it ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dennis Jowell >>>>>>>> Scotch Hollow Farm
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