It is becoming obvious to me from this thread that I should have stayed in
that chemistry class. I will be looking into alternative heat sources and
eliminating this toxic danger.
Thanks to all!!!

On Sunday, January 4, 2015, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@gmail.com> wrote:

> I designed the cabinet in AutoCAD and sent a cutsheet file to a company
> with a Cnc router. I took them a sheet of 4x8 baltic plywood and they cut
> out the panels exactly to my dimensions. I picked up all of the panels and
> assembled the box myself.
> I used it for a camp trip already and have made some tweaks to the design.
> I should have the final version cut out sometime next month. The big
> openings on the front of the box are sized to accommodate 2 Westfalia flat
> cabinet doors I bought from gowesty. The goal is to make it look stock..
>
>
> http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10860169_375827052586431_703602767_n.jpg
>
> Abel.
> DasMotoClub.com
> On Jan 4, 2015 10:27 AM, "Harry Hoffman" <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Abel,
> >
> > That setup looks awesome! Did you build it all yourself?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Harry
> >
> > On Jan 4, 2015 10:03 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have the Webasto Air Top 2000 gas version (benzine). Got it from
> > eBay...
> > >
> > > http://m.ebay.com/itm/281214486217
> > >
> > > It's installed behind the passenger seat and I have a mockup cabinet
> > built
> > > to house it. Final cabinet will have Westfalia doors, trim and laminate
> > to
> > > match the rest of the Westy interior
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://scontent-a.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10853060_575272589270874_1875694596_n.jpg
> > > On Jan 4, 2015 2:06 AM, <mfmagnani@sbcglobal.net <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Abel,
> > > > I did a google search of the Webasto heater and I'm curious which
> kind
> > of
> > > > heater you have and how you mounted it. Do you have any pictures of
> > your
> > > > installation?
> > > > My wife and I just got back from the Grand Canyon where we really
> could
> > > > have used some heat.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mike M
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 3, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Abel Longoria <houstonphotog@GMAIL.COM
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Invest in a propane detector and a Carbon monoxide detector..
> Safety
> > > > first.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just recently installed a webasto fuel heater and love it. Can't
> > wait
> > > > for
> > > > > some more winter camping.
> > > > >
> > > > > Abel.
> > > > > On Jan 3, 2015 11:08 AM, "Tom Hargrave" <thargrav@hiwaay.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The scary part of this is you were not breathing heavy. This means
> > that
> > > > O2
> > > > >> was being depleted but there was not much CO2 in the air. Your
> body
> > does
> > > > >> not react to absence of oxygen, it reacts to a buildup of CO2.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If instead of watching the flame you had dozed off, you might have
> > just
> > > > >> gone to sleep and not woken back up!!!!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
> > > > >> www.kegkits.com
> > > > >> www.stir-plate.com
> > > > >> www.towercooler.com
> > > > >> www.grow-sun.com
> > > > >> www.raspberryproject.com
> > > > >> http://goo.gl/niRzVw
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> <javascript:;>] On
> > Behalf
> > > > >> Of Edward Maglott
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2015 10:38 AM
> > > > >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Heat inside the camper.. No
> > > > >>
> > > > >> That's pretty interesting Don.  How long do you think it took for
> > the
> > > > >> flame to start diminishing?  Another physics question for the list
> > is at
> > > > >> what % oxygen will that start happening to the stove flame.  At
> > least
> > > > some
> > > > >> of those propane heaters with oxygen depletion sensors work on the
> > same
> > > > >> principle.  the pilot light is what heats the thermocouple.  as O2
> > > > declines
> > > > >> the pilot flame shrinks until the thermocouple eventually shuts
> off
> > the
> > > > gas
> > > > >> due to low temp.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have "illegally" used the stove for heat while stealth camping
> > but not
> > > > >> for very long.  Usually just long enough to get dressed enough to
> go
> > > > into
> > > > >> the walmart/truckstop/whatever that I'm stealth camping at.  when
> i
> > get
> > > > >> back I start the engine and let it idle while I reconfigure for
> > driving.
> > > > >> put front heater on cold so no coolant goes to that core and that
> > rear
> > > > >> heater will start putting out heat quite soon.
> > > > >> Edward
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:23 AM, David Bjorkman <
> > ddbjorkman@verizon.net <javascript:;>
> > > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I too am a lover of that coffee pot heating the interior of the
> > Westy
> > > > >>> first thing in the AM.  As a matter of fact, the lovely bride
> and I
> > > > >>> usually set up the coffee the night before and whoever loses the
> > buck
> > > > >>> up in the AM has to jump out of bed and light the burner.  By the
> > time
> > > > >>> the coffee is ready, the cabin is warm and toasty and we get
> > dressed.
> > > > I
> > > > >> Love my car.
> > > > >>> BUT, we never leave it on longer than it takes to do the job, and
> > the
> > > > >>> top is open.  I must admit we have, on very limited occasions,
> > heated
> > > > >>> a couple of kettles to almost boiling point in the bus to fend
> off
> > the
> > > > >>> cold, thus allowing a heat source, but one must be very cognizant
> > of
> > > > >>> O2.  Just being in the vehicle uses it up.  There are better ways
> > to
> > > > >>> get a headache Than lack of oxygen.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Dave B.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 01/03/15, Don Hanson wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Over many years and different vans, the majority VW, I've often
> > used
> > > > >>> my cook stove for quick heat. I've believed that my vans "leaked"
> > > > >>> enough outside air that asphyxiation wasn't going to happen. This
> > is
> > > > >>> probably wrong, at least in my tin top camper. Just now, it being
> > > > >>> around freezing in the pre-dawn desert SW, I brewed coffee and
> left
> > > > >>> both westie stove burners on high for some heat as I watched the
> > > > >>> sunrise .... I saw my burner's flame diminish and get thready.
> > Thought
> > > > I
> > > > >> was out of propane...
> > > > >>> But I discovered that a kitchen match, the "strike and light
> > anywhere"
> > > > >>> kind, that would not light! No O2 or too much co2....whatever,
> > pretty
> > > > >>> scary. I ran back the slider and let some air in, things burn
> > normal
> > > > >> again.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> So I believe the warning against using the cook top for cabin
> > > > >> heat.,..now.
> > > > >>> I just saw why.
> > > > >> -----
> > > > >> No virus found in this message.
> > > > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > > > >> Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8855 - Release Date:
> > > > 01/02/15
> > > > >>
> > > >
> >
>

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