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Subject:Re: alternator charge initiation
From:Jim Felder
Date:Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:23:51 -0600

So, if there is a way to add a resistor or capacitor to the wiring to prove
the "blip" I would like to know what it is.

Jim

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Max Wellhouse <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>
wrote:

> On 1/20/2015 1:26 PM, Mark McCulley wrote:
>
>> I read somewhere that the ICU is supposed to provide that initial blip
>> on startup.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Max Wellhouse
>> <dimwittedmoose@cfu.net <mailto:dimwittedmoose@cfu.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 1/20/2015 1:00 PM, Stuart MacMillan wrote:
>>
>>         My son's van came with that installed, and I'm tempted to cut
>>         it open to find out what's in it.  It feels like a large
>>         resistor, and somehow it routes extra voltage or current to
>>         activate the alternator quicker.
>>
>>         Stuart
>>
>>         -----Original Message-----
>>         From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>         <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>] On Behalf Of Edward Maglott
>>         Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:43 AM
>>         To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>         Subject: Re: alternator charge initiation
>>
>>         Interesting.  I've seen that symptom on VWs for years, maybe
>>         decades.  I
>>         wonder what that GoWesty device has in it, if anything?  If I
>>         were more
>>         annoyed by needing to blip the throttle I would figure it out
>>         and make my
>>         own.  Maybe it just connects the blue and black wires?
>>
>>         On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Jim Felder
>>         <jim.felder@gmail.com <mailto:jim.felder@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Interesting. Looking at the installation drawings on the
>>             GoWesty site, it
>>             looks like this product is made to work with the
>>             Waterboxer motors (the
>>             article on the product specifically states that it won't
>>             work with
>>             air-cooled vanagons). But what about diesels? I think they
>>             all have that
>>             "need to blip" issue--my certainly always has--but if I
>>             recall correctly,
>>             the diesels need an adjustable output voltage regulator.
>>             At least that has
>>             been mentioned.
>>
>>             Jim
>>
>>             On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Mark McCulley
>>             <markmcculley@gmail.com <mailto:markmcculley@gmail.com>>
>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Ever since I replaced my alternator I've needed to
>>                 blip the throttle
>>
>>             after
>>
>>                 starting to get the Alt light to go out. This happens
>>                 about 50% of time.
>>
>>             I
>>
>>                 never had to do this with the old alternator. The new
>>                 one was a Bosch
>>                 rebuild. I do have a solenoid in the circuit for cabin
>>                 battery charging
>>
>>             but
>>
>>                 the problem persists even if I switch out that solenoid.
>>
>>                 Did I get a bum alternator? I see GoWesty makes a
>>                 little harness to fix
>>                 this problem
>>                 (http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=24031) but
>>                 would like to understand why I have a problem that
>>                 never existed before
>>                 replacing the alternator.
>>
>>                 -Mark
>>
>>                 '87 Syncro Westy
>>                 FUNHAUS
>>
>>     I
>>     've wondered why my 90GL has developed that problem as well, and was
>>     wondeirng if a weaky attached alternator bracket would keep belt
>>     tension
>>     from being as it should and blipping the throttle would torque the
>>     motor
>>     enough to get the belt to stick a bit better.  Also thought maybe the
>>     voltage regulator might be going south.....cheaper than a full
>>     alternator replacement i guess.....
>>
>>     DM&FS
>>
>>
>>  Maybe a capacitor that "stores" some voltage for start up???
>
> BTW, I know nothing about electronics, but dsome of the car stereo
> freaks use really big capacitors to store voltage for their really high
> powered competition stereo systems.. Just thinking out loud...which will
> get me into trouble eventually....
>
> DM&FS
>