Don

        AgreeWithYou 100% on the NoisePolutionIssue ~ It's the main reason why I 

Avoid CampGrounds > With A Passion < & SeekOut OutOfTheWayPlaces to do my

Enjoying of TheGreatOutdoors ~ Another reason is that when I get up in the Middle

of the night because NatureCalls I don't want to bother AnyoneElse when my Slider

does its PoorAttempt @ trying to call in a few Elk ~

        OnceUponATime back before my WestyDays my Wife&I were CarCamping in a

CampGrounds Quite a Ways OffTheBeatenPath in the SW Colorado Mtns & we had

the place all to ourselves until about dusk when a huge PUTruck with a BackYardGrill

in the back pulled in, just a couple of spaces away & behind where I was parked ~

They FiredUp the Grill & the Generator & then the Stereo with some sort of "music"

that DidNot Appeal to The2OfUs Especially since we had planned on a nice Quiet

NightInTheMountains ~ MyRide ThoseDays was a '66 2+2Mustang & I had a Really

Fine Stereo of MyOwn ResidingWithin It ~ Some of the speakers were mounted in the

bulkhead between the Backseat & the Trunk so if the TrunkLid was open & the Volume

CrankedUp it Presented like a ConcertVenue ~ I decided to FightFireWithFire & Popped

the Trunk, put one of my FavoriteTapes of the time in the Player & let David Allen Coe 

HaveHisWay with these folks with '"If That Aint Country You Can Kiss My A**" ~ It only

took that 1 song & it was Quiet the rest of the night ~

                                                                        ORR ~ DeanB

O5 Feb , 2015, at 4:29 PM, Don Hanson wrote:

> "Preaching to the choir" ?   I appreciate the agreement.   I've not
> encountered many VW vans with generators, but there are some.
> 
> Organized formal camps often have "generator hours".   It just amazes me
> that people are so 'unintentionally' rude..It seems to go right over their
> heads that someone might want to sit outside and enjoy nature without a
> background drone.  I've actually asked a  couple of people if they would
> perhaps shut their generators down, and I've never had a  civil response..
> 
>  The best answer I got was a few years back from a guy with a noisy
> one....He would fire it up and leave for hours.....Asked him very
> politely.  His answer made my jaw drop!  He said something on the lines
> of..." I don't like the noise, so I always leave it on and go away so I
> don't have to hear it"
> 
> Anyhow, that's my Rap...generators are noisy and a big imposition on
> others.  On a still desert evening you  can hear a Briggs for miles and a
> Honda for about one mile....I have 3 I hear going within earshot as I post,
> On Feb 5, 2015 2:34 PM, "Dennis Jowell" <dennisjowell@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I agree 100% shut the noise off and hear nature that's what  most of us
>> are out here for.
>> Don thanks for your insight!
>> 
>> Dennis Jowell
>> Scotch Hollow Farm
>> Newbury, Vermont
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Again I must comment on how selfish it is to "camp" with your generator
>>> on.  Plug your ears, stick out your tongue and yell "La LA LA..." at high
>>> volume so you don't have to "hear" what I'm saying here, but there it is!
>>> 
>>> Deny deny deny, but your generator noise DOES completely eliminate the
>>> peace and quiet that many people go camping to find.  Is it fair to
>> impose
>>> your noise on everyone around you?  No it is not.
>>> 
>>> I know that most people don't even get out into the country very often
>>> and fewer yet think their generators make any noise at all, but they
>> really
>>> do.
>>> The natural world is getting full, I know, but dang!...There's Solar and
>>> batteries that do not impose on others who may value no unneeded noise,
>> and
>>> nobody NEEDS to listen to a generator.
>>> 
>>> OK you all who Generate....You can unplug your ears and stop going "LA
>> la
>>> LA LA LA!" now, my annual anti-generator rap is done...hit the starter
>>> button and go outside by your exhaust pipe and enjoy your camping...
>>