I actually can feel movement when I lift the door, indicating either loose bolts (not) or worn pins.

I'm not saying jacking the door up will not fix the slight misalignment I have at the door latch, just saying I can feel that the hinge is slightly worn. And it is just very slight in the his case.

I do not feel any looseness in the passenger side door.

Alistair

> On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:05 PM, Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> That is usually the culprit.  People use the door to climb in and out.  The hinges rarely wear out.  I've been able to fix most of these with a floor jack and a 4x4 under the flat area near the rear bottom of the door.  It takes a bit more effort than you may think...
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Don Hanson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:00 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Front door adjustment question
> 
> You might try just lifting on the door.  Often the doors sag cause someone hung on it when it was openening....
>> On Feb 18, 2015 11:04 AM, "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Most any real hobby shop.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:01 PM, Dan N <dn92610@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks Jim,
>>> 
>>> where do you get those shims?
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> I used brass shim stock.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Dan N <dn92610@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> what kind of shims to use? I guess washers right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Scott Daniel Foss < 
>>>>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> hmmmm....
>>>>>> in any case, on a front door shimming the bottom hinge aftward (
>> betwixt
>>>>>> body and hinge ) raises the rear edge of the door.  ( if hinge 
>>>>>> is mounted to the normal 'front' side of the frame )
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> you say  'forward side' ...
>>>>>> ( no vanagon right here  to look at ) in that case ...one would 
>>>>>> remove a shim . ..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> pretty sure I fixed 'low at the rear edge' by adding as shim .
>>>>>> if it is attached at the forward side..
>>>>>> then adding at the upper hinge do it..moving the upper hinge forward.
>>>>>> that sorta 'fits' ...maybe that's what I did.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/17/2015 6:49 AM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, but I think you have the shim position, for my problem, 
>>>>>>> not
>> quite
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The hinge plates attach to the forward side of the body flange. 
>>>>>>> So
>> to
>>>>>>> raise the rear of my door I would add shim between body and top
>> hinge plate.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That would rotate the door anti clockwise, looking at the door 
>>>>>>> from
>> the
>>>>>>> side of the van.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Alistair
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 10:41 PM, Scott Daniel Foss <
>>>>>>>> scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've put a shim between the body and the lower hinge, to move 
>>>>>>>> the lover hinge pivot point aft slightly, and thus lifting
>> up
>>>>>>>> the aft edge of the door to fix this.
>>>>>>>> It's fiddly ..
>>>>>>>> like tight odd access , but doable.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> S.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2015 7:59 PM, Alistair Bell wrote:
>>>>>>>>> My drivers side front door has a little bit of sag. It feels 
>>>>>>>>> like
>> it
>>>>>>>>> comes off resting n the latch when opened. I have adjusted 
>>>>>>>>> front
>> doors a
>>>>>>>>> few times, and I understand the adjustments allowed in the
>> system. But what
>>>>>>>>> I need is sort of like shimming the hinge plates or getting 
>>>>>>>>> new
>> hinge pins.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You know what I mean? As if the hinge pins are loose enough 
>>>>>>>>> to
>> allow a
>>>>>>>>> little drop when door opened.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's a very little amount right now, but I'd like to deal 
>>>>>>>>> with
>> it. Does
>>>>>>>>> anyone understand what I am trying to explain and have a solution?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Alistair
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