thanks John,

that's what I am thinking to. I went to a shop to service the A/C.. the
mechanic asked me to turn on to A/C before doing anything... NOTHING... the
clutch was not ON just the fan...

he gave me 2 choices.. go home and trouble shoot myself and come back or
let the van there and he will do it with a fat bill... so I went home,
tried, read the Bentley and tried again.. and ask question around...

I unscrew the blue cap on the compressor, stuck in a screw driver and
nothing came out of it.. not even a faint hiss...sooooo..and I got the very
same feeling as yours... we will try to put some freon in it and try again
tomorrow..

thanks for the reply

dan