The stock cooler is known to fail and destroy the engine.  They are all very
old!

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Magnani
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:03 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: .9 bar oil pressure sender replacement

Kevin,
I recently installed the sandwich adapter with the stock oil cooler on my
2.1 WBX with no problems.
Mike M

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> On Mar 5, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Kevin Duvernay <kduvey@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Stuart, can you clarify that? Are you saying I will not be able to use
> an oil filter sandwich adapter with the stock oil cooler? Because I
> was planning to... I don't see why you couldn't?  Or are you just
> saying the stock one sucks and should be replaced with an aftermarket
> one? I don't know much about this subject, will need to do some research.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Stuart MacMillan
> <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You can have it all with that.  As you know, you need to add an
>> external cooler and junk the WBX stock cooler.
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of Kevin Duvernay
>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 9:59 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: .9 bar oil pressure sender replacement
>>
>> Well I do plan to install in the near future an oil filter sandwich
>> plate and putting in an oil pressure sensor and an oil temp sensor.
>> Only thing I'm waiting on is for Chris over at T3 to import another
>> batch of gauge pods for the ash tray.
>>
>>
>> http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/vehicle-specific-oil-filter-sender-ada
>> pter.aspx
>>
>> Is replacing the grey hi pressure switch a better option than the
>> filter adapter plate?
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson928@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Dunno if it is possible with the WBX sensors but a thought:   Perhaps
>>> replace the sensor with a gauge for pressure?  Or a T-fitting, like
>>> I use on my inline VW motor... one that allows me to have the warning
light
>>> function and the OP pressure instrument?   I also installed an oil
>>> temperature gauge....I think I put that at oil filter flange....
>>>
>>>  Both of those gauges are very informative....I monitor those during
>>> extreme driving conditions...I would not feel comfortable depending
>>> on just the warnings from factory in any VW motor (that I can
>>> afford) when well-installed dependable instrument can show you the
>>> actual temperature and pressure and the trends in (almost) real time...
>>>
>>>   As an example of the peace of mind given by actually knowing what
>>> is going on with the motor's insides.......On my recent trip back
>>> from the desert SW I encountered a huge traffic jamb on Cajon Pass,
>>> leaving San Bernardino....Almost two hours of stop and go, uphill
>>> amidst a crowd of huge big rigs and very aggressive California
>>> drivers, with no off ramps and almost no chance of lane changes,
>>> driving my 84 vanagon loaded at 4700lbs....Sitting there amongst all
>>> that I was glad to KNOW that nothing much was bothering the old ABA
>>> jetta motor...OP stayed at 23lbs during idle and the temp confirmed
>>> the motor was cooling just
>> fine...
>>>
>>> Better, in my opinion, than just:  "Oil pressure?...Yes" that you
>>> get from the stock set up....
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Kevin Duvernay <kduvey@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys. How do I tell if my sensor is an aftermarket one or
>>>> one of the genuine resigned ones?
>>>>
>>>> I do have a spare oil cooler O ring kicking around somewhere, I'll
>>>> dig it out. Good tip on the PB blaster. I snapped a stud replacing
>>>> the other header... (although the 2/4 header hardware looks much
>>>> less corroded and I've already broke 3 of the 4 nuts loose)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:12 AM, OlRivrRat <OlRivrRat@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>                Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>>        Not that it is necessary, but I'll put a 2nd on what DH &
>>>>> KW
>>>> have
>>>>> said & Add that if
>>>>>
>>>>> You have not already done so, You should Soak All the Nuts&Bolts
>>>>> that
>>>> you
>>>>> are going to
>>>>>
>>>>> be removing on this project with PBBlaster &Or Zep45 Today & then
>>>> HeatItUp
>>>>> ToOp'Temp
>>>>>
>>>>> &Then SoakAgain ~
>>>>>
>>>>>        &Also ~ The NextTime You change Your Oil, Save Yourself
>>>>> some UnnecessarilySpent
>>>>>
>>>>> $s & use Valvoline FullSynthetic Instead ~
>>>> http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/full-
>>>> sy
>>>> nthetic-motor-oil/
>>>>>
>>>>>        Redline is a GreatOil as are RoyalPurple & Ams but
>>>> WayOverPriced &
>>>>> a Valvo' F'S'Oil
>>>>>
>>>>> will DoTheJob JustAsWell ~
>>>>>
>>>>>        There are Other Good F'S'Oils out there but I'm just fond
>>>>> of Valvo' ~
>>>>>
>>>>>                                                        ORR ~ DeanB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 Mar , 2015, at 8:50 AM, Kevin Duvernay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm swapping out my motor mounts tomorrow. While I'm there I'm
>>>>>> also
>>>> going
>>>>>> to replace the #2/4 header. If that goes smoothly, I've also got
>>>>>> a new water pump along with all new coolant pipes/gaskets and
>>>>>> hoses (its basically the last bits of my complete cooling system
>>>>>> overhaul!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I figured while I'm there doing all this I minus well
>>>>>> toss
>>>> in a
>>>>>> new high pressure oil sender (the grey one, .9 bar). What I'm
>>>> wondering
>>>>> is,
>>>>>> is it possible to do this without loosing too much oil? I JUST
>>>>>> changed
>>>>> the
>>>>>> oil out to some really expensive Redline synthetic stuff, would
>>>>>> hate
>>>> to
>>>>>> waste any of it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, anything else I should address while I'm back there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kevin
>>
>>