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Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of John Goubeaux
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 3:05 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: No Start Scenario, burned out pin D15 !

Thanks,

VW dealer here in my town can get a   "000 979 211E"   ( they say the E
is for improved - but @ 19.95 I say more likely E xpensive )

I ordered one, AND as you said, it IS TWO connectors attached with a wire, which can be cut to use on the panel.

-john

On 3/13/15 8:58 PM, mark drillock wrote:
> The same pins were used on many VW and Audi models. Some years ago I 
> bought a variety of pins from my local dealer so I could do these 
> kinds of repairs when I needed to. They sold them as a short piece of 
> wire with an identical pin crimped on each end. Each size pin is 
> available with a variety of gauge wire attached and there is a 
> different part number for each combination. Unfortunately the parts 
> numbers have faded out on the packages so I can't read them anymore.
>
> Looking at the VW Parts Data,
> it seems the smaller female pin is 000 979 208 with a 2.5mm gauge wire 
> it seems the larger female pin is 000 979 211 with a 2.5mm gauge wire
>
> I think these are the ones but I'm not positive.
>
> You can always scavenge a used one from another VW or Audi but you 
> need the special tool to pop the pin out of the housing.
>
> There is another work around you can do to the harness near the 
> fuse/relay panel. Jumper between the black wire on pin A8 and the 
> black wire at D15. Don't cut the wire to pin A8 since it feeds other 
> things through the panel. You can cut the wire to D15 and wrap it 
> around the wire at A8, then solder. Then wrap well with tape. The 
> black wires have no fuse protection!
>
> Mark
>
> John Goubeaux wrote:
>> OK,  So I pulled the main fuse panel and removed the  "D" connector 
>> and my D15 pin looks  a lot like the one posted here:  ( burned up )
>>
>> http://shufti.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/vanagon-d15-connector-issue/
>>
>> I guess I could clean it up a bit and get it to conduct some more ( 
>> might do that just to prove it WAS the culprit ) BUT looks like the 
>> best long term option is to use pin D23 as folks suggest.
>>
>> SO, per this clip  pasted below,  ( I believe from Mark via a 
>> discussion on the Samba)  I'd like to do just what he suggests.
>>
>>
>> Q: What do I need to ask for from my VW dealer, presuming they DO 
>> have this larger molex connector ? Is their a size #  Is the part guy 
>> gonna know ?
>>
>>
>> "The fix is simple and vendors should sell a kit for it. VW sells 
>> spare pins with a few inches of wire on the end. Cut the black wire from D15.
>> Solder it to the wire on the new pin, heatshrink the connection. 
>> Insert the new bigger pin in the empty hole at D23."
>>
>>
>> -john
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/13/15 11:00 AM, John Goubeaux wrote:
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> I did finally find the "definitive thread" on the topic:
>>>
>>> "D15 Connector revealed"
>>>
>>> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind1111a&L=vanagon&D=0&F=
>>> P&P=5168
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While I have not had time to pull the fwd main fuse panel and 
>>> inspect, I will be surprised IF this is NOT the source of the 
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> ALL looks good in the engine compartment wiring box though.
>>>
>>> I will inspect the fwd panel this weekend and will No doubt have a 
>>> question on how to repair what I find.
>>>
>>>
>>> Happy Friday  !!
>>>
>>> -john
>>>
>>>