Jeep is showing a Grand Cherokee Overlander Concept with one of those roof rack tents on it. I have to believe there's more than a few people (and not just us) that want a camping vehicle that drives like a car. 

Steve
87 Syncro GL

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On Fri, 3/20/15, Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:

 Subject: Re: van comparisons {was (Friday NVC) When Euro hits parity}
 To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
 Date: Friday, March 20, 2015, 11:43 PM
 
 ---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
 wrote:
 >
 > I think VW knows that until they have products that
 truly compete with the
 > Ford or Mercedes van or trucks there is little sense
 going for the American
 > market. As for campers most folks want fully featured
 units including
 > toilets and showers and enough room to be comfortable.
 As you start heading
 > North of $40K there are a lot of choices beyond a van
 with a pop up tent.
 
 But what some of us want is a van with a pop up tent, maybe
 just a scooch more room, but that's not essential.�
 Showers and toilets?� Nope, not me, not needed.�
 But I would like modern reliability.
 
 mcneely
 
 >
 > Dennis
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
 On Behalf Of
 > Stuart MacMillan
 > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 12:38 PM
 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
 > Subject: Re: (Friday NVC) When Euro hits parity
 >
 > VW has a limited product line in the US, and their
 biggest problem here will
 > be meeting the ever increasing CAFE fuel economy
 standards, hence the
 > introduction of the very expensive e-Golf� Who's
 going to buy this for
 > $34,000? And, the subsidized $299/mo lease is only
 available in 10 states
 > and DE.
 >
 > CAFE means selling more fuel efficient cars to bring up
 the fleet average,
 > and bringing in vans without a subsidized electric or
 hybrid high mileage
 > car to offset them won't help.� I think that's the
 main reason we won't see
 > a van any time soon. Or maybe we'll see only TDI vans!
 >
 > Compared to #1 Toyota with the Prius, a bunch of gas
 sippers (including the
 > tiny 37 mpg Scion iQ), two pickup trucks (at least one
 is essential in the
 > US), their bread and butter Camry, and a Van, distant
 #2 VW has a long way
 > to go. But I would like to see them try harder.
 >
 > Stuart
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
 On Behalf Of
 > Jon VO
 > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:38 PM
 > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
 > Subject: Re: (Friday NVC) When Euro hits parity
 >
 > Except the Eos, the Golf R, and the CC are mainly
 optioned versions of
 > existing NA models, the California is not imported in
 any form.
 >
 >
 > On 3/18/2015 8:39 PM, James wrote:
 > > Volvo has been way behind Toyota in reliability
 for the last five
 > > years or
 > so.
 > >
 > > Thing is, reliability or the lack thereof isn't
 the buying factor it
 > > used
 > to be, as overall automotive reliability is now so high
 - the 'average' in
 > Consumer Reports now was the five star reliability
 rating of 15 years ago.
 > >
 > > And as to the idea that 'special low volume models
 aren't part of that
 > business model" - VW sells the EOS, the CC, the Golf R
 - all low volume, all
 > to showcase the brand.� Yet most of the public
 could hardly place a CC or an
 > EOS if they were challenged, when everybody knows the
 VW bus.� Importing the
 > California camper, with special trim lines to celebrate
 the camper, seems a
 > natural.
 > >
 > > As the EOS and R have shown, a 'US federalised'
 model need not be a
 > stopper.� The handful of years they've sold the R
 on this side of the
 > Atlantic, they've brought in as few as 400 per year,
 IIRC.
 > >
 > > James
 > > Ottawa, ON
 > >
 
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 David McNeely