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Subject:Re: Third brake light
From:ANTONY MARSH
Date:Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:28:59 -0400

Any specific suggestions on where to get these LED bulbs for bog standard original rear lights/sockets?

Thanks

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> On Mar 16, 2015, at 13:45, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> 
> Especially if you carry bikes on the back on a hitch mounted rack like I
> do.  They further obscure the low down stock lights.  I put some LED lights
> in the upper corners of my back window.  They have 2 brightnesses.  I have
> them wired through a "hoppy" so that they can show running lights, brake,
> and turn.
> 
> http://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Hopkins/HM48895.html
> 
> Edward
> 
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Definitely upgrade to LED brake and backup lights, a must-do improvement.
>> But, the high third brake light is a proven safety feature mandated since
>> 1986 in cars, and should have been installed on low mounted taillight
>> Vanagons.  Especially those driven in congested metropolitan areas full of
>> distracted drivers texting and talking, like Seattle.
>> 
>> From Wikipedia:
>> 
>> " The 'center high mount stop light' is intended to provide a warning to
>> drivers whose view of the vehicle's left and right stop lamps is blocked by
>> interceding vehicles. It also provides a redundant stop light signal in the
>> event of a stop lamp malfunction. In North America where rear turn signals
>> are permitted to emit red light, the CHMSL also helps to disambiguate brake
>> lights from rear position lights and turn signal lights"
>> 
>> I've priced aftermarket CHMSLs and the Go Westy kit is the best deal I
>> found.
>> 
>> Stuart
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mudd "Not Jack" Sparrow [mailto:rummaging@yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:28 PM
>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Third brake light
>> 
>> I honestly wouldn't fuss with all that unless you've already upgraded to
>> led
>> exterior lights. The led brake lights and blinkers seem brighter. Stronger.
>> 
>> And burnt out incandescent bulbs are poor communicators.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 15, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've installed two of them.  I recommend you don't use their
>> "professional" method of replacing the male spade connector in the plug,
>> it's not heavy duty enough, and crimping doesn't work at all.  I did make
>> it
>> work by soldering it though, If you have already attempted this method.
>>> 
>>> On the second one I used the included Scotchlock clamp connector and wrap
>> it in good quality electrical tape. Much easier.
>>> 
>>> The left side feeds the right side, so you have a bad connection at the
>> left tail light. Dive back in!
>>> 
>>> Stuart
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Patrick Seurynck
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 5:21 PM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Third brake light
>>> 
>>> I just installed a Third Brake Light kit from GW.
>>> It is a very simple install and came out very clean.
>>> I now have no brake lights at all!
>>> Fuse is good, bulbs are good, all other lights are working, checked and
>> cleaned the ground.
>>> No electrical issues prior.
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>>> Thanks! Patrick
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>