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Subject:Re: Third brake light
From:OlRivrRat
Date:Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:19:41 -0600

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On 16 Mar , 2015, at 1:28 PM, ANTONY MARSH wrote:

> Any specific suggestions on where to get these LED bulbs for bog standard original rear lights/sockets?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sent from my digital leash
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2015, at 13:45, Edward Maglott <emaglott3@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Especially if you carry bikes on the back on a hitch mounted rack like I
>> do.  They further obscure the low down stock lights.  I put some LED lights
>> in the upper corners of my back window.  They have 2 brightnesses.  I have
>> them wired through a "hoppy" so that they can show running lights, brake,
>> and turn.
>> 
>> http://www.etrailer.com/Wiring/Hopkins/HM48895.html
>> 
>> Edward
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Definitely upgrade to LED brake and backup lights, a must-do improvement.
>>> But, the high third brake light is a proven safety feature mandated since
>>> 1986 in cars, and should have been installed on low mounted taillight
>>> Vanagons.  Especially those driven in congested metropolitan areas full of
>>> distracted drivers texting and talking, like Seattle.
>>> 
>>> From Wikipedia:
>>> 
>>> " The 'center high mount stop light' is intended to provide a warning to
>>> drivers whose view of the vehicle's left and right stop lamps is blocked by
>>> interceding vehicles. It also provides a redundant stop light signal in the
>>> event of a stop lamp malfunction. In North America where rear turn signals
>>> are permitted to emit red light, the CHMSL also helps to disambiguate brake
>>> lights from rear position lights and turn signal lights"
>>> 
>>> I've priced aftermarket CHMSLs and the Go Westy kit is the best deal I
>>> found.
>>> 
>>> Stuart
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mudd "Not Jack" Sparrow [mailto:rummaging@yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 11:28 PM
>>> To: Stuart MacMillan
>>> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Third brake light
>>> 
>>> I honestly wouldn't fuss with all that unless you've already upgraded to
>>> led
>>> exterior lights. The led brake lights and blinkers seem brighter. Stronger.
>>> 
>>> And burnt out incandescent bulbs are poor communicators.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've installed two of them.  I recommend you don't use their
>>> "professional" method of replacing the male spade connector in the plug,
>>> it's not heavy duty enough, and crimping doesn't work at all.  I did make
>>> it
>>> work by soldering it though, If you have already attempted this method.
>>>> 
>>>> On the second one I used the included Scotchlock clamp connector and wrap
>>> it in good quality electrical tape. Much easier.
>>>> 
>>>> The left side feeds the right side, so you have a bad connection at the
>>> left tail light. Dive back in!
>>>> 
>>>> Stuart
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Patrick Seurynck
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 5:21 PM
>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> Subject: Third brake light
>>>> 
>>>> I just installed a Third Brake Light kit from GW.
>>>> It is a very simple install and came out very clean.
>>>> I now have no brake lights at all!
>>>> Fuse is good, bulbs are good, all other lights are working, checked and
>>> cleaned the ground.
>>>> No electrical issues prior.
>>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
>>>> Thanks! Patrick
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>