Stop sending me this please

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> There are 5 messages totalling 408 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Audi (2)
>   2. Time for new tires! (3)
>
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>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:59:44 -0700
> From:    Jeffrey Vickers <jeffrey@VICKERSDESIGN.COM <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Audi
>
> I have a 2005 Avant with 136K. Great car - bought it new. It is however, =
> an expensive car to fix. I did the timing belt myself which basically =
> requires taking the front end of the car off. Doh! That was a fun =
> weekend. Timing belt in a shop is around a $1200 -$1900 job depending on =
> who does it.=20
>
> My Avant needs a water pump - $1100 - and a clutch in another 10K or so =
> ($900). If your seller hasn=E2=80=99t replaced either one of those, plan =
> on doing them soon.=20
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know if the =E2=80=9998 has a coolant flange, but =
> that=E2=80=99s another weak point in the coolant system that fails and =
> is expensive to fix because it=E2=80=99s buried at the bottom of the =
> engine. I had the driver=E2=80=99s door window regulator go south a =
> couple of years ago and that was around $700. ABS sensors are rather =
> pricey as well from what I hear.=20
>
> BTW - these are independent shop - not dealership - prices I am quoting, =
> although I live in the Bay Area and mechanic=E2=80=99s labor prices tend =
> to be higher here.
>
> I=E2=80=99m hoping that when the new A4 platform is revealed in August, =
> that there will be a diesel Avant with a stick shift and Quattro to =
> replace my =E2=80=9905. Hey Audi - is that so much to ask?  =3D )
>
> Jeff in Marin
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Automatic digest processor =
> <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> <javascript:;>] On =
> Behalf =3D
> > Of Gene P
> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 12:03 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Fryday NVC - Audi opinions?
> >=20
> > Thinking of getting a German cousin for the ol grey wolfsburg to give =
> =3D
> > him a break, let him stay in some in the winter, etc.  Vehicle is a 98 =
> =3D
> > Audi A4 Avant (little wagonlike hatchback) with 135K miles.  Upside is =
> =3D
> > one owner and I know the owner, so confidence in how it's been driven =
> =3D
> > and maintained.  Downside is unknown, am I jumping into a money pit =
> with =3D
> > a needy vehicle I won't be able to maintain?  If any of y'all have =3D
> > experience or opinions with these things, I'd like to hear.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> > gp
>
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>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Apr 2015 18:59:21 -0700
> From:    PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Time for new tires!
>
> Thanks very much for the info.  Tomorrow morning I will contact the local
> dealer and ask if he can get the recommended Hancooks. Apparently they're
> available from Walmart and Sears, but I'll keep checking to see where else
> they can be obtained locally.
> Patti
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Jim Arnott <jrasite@eoni.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > Hi Patti,
> >
> > The 185R14 is not an indication of =E2=80=9Ctruck=E2=80=9D tire. The
> load=
>  range is.  There
> > are three =E2=80=98acceptable' criteria. All taken individually, of
> cours=
> e.
> >
> > 1. load range 104 is high enough. 95 or 98 really isn=E2=80=99t.
> > 2. the suffix XL on the size. 185R14 XL  (Extra load.)
> > 3. the suffix C on the size. 185R14C (Commercial)
> >
> > Any of those those the indicators would show suitability for a Vanagon.
> >
> > The same holds true for the factory optional tire size 205/70R14.
> > 205/70R14 is a passenger car tire. 205/70R14 XL is a Vanagon tire.
> >
> > Larry Chase=E2=80=99s site <http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/guideline.html
> >=
>  is
> > noncommercial. Bus Depot sells tires. (Though Ron is way more accurate
> th=
> an
> > one of the other popular Vanagon tire sellers.)
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own mind.
> > -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:11 PM, PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Both sets of tire guidelines are very helpful.  I'm glad to know that I
> > > already have the recommended size tires *(**185R14)* on my Westy,
> > although
> > > they need to be replaced.  Is this size, by definition, a TRUCK tire,
> a=
> s
> > > opposed to a passenger car tire?  And is *185R14* uniform within all
> > makes
> > > of tires?  Is there any variations within this size from maker to
> maker=
> ?
> > > *Patti*
> > > *90 Westy Automatic*
> > > *Los Angeles  *
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Load range & sidewall deflection issues are what comes to mind, given
> > the
> > >> smallish tire and relatively high weight & loading of the tire. You
> ma=
> y
> > be
> > >> able to go to 195r14's if you can find them. A bit larger all around,
> > more
> > >> weight capacity but still will fit the spare area, and otherwise be a
> > >> slight improvement.  Unfortunately, the 195r14 reinforced size seems
> t=
> o
> > >> have all but vanished...I believe Hancook still make them.
> > >> I am running all-season tires which are a compromise, summer tires
> wea=
> r
> > >> longer.  Winter tires have much better cold & ice traction.
> > >> Jon
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 4/17/2015 2:58 PM, PB wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Is there anything different about getting new tires for my 90
> > >>> Westy automatic?  There's a tire dealer I feel comfortable with, not
> > far
> > >>> from where I live. I've gotten tires for my Jeep there. Their service
> > is
> > >>> excellent, and I have had no problems with the service or the tires.
> > >>>
> > >>> My current tires are Michelin 185R 14C.  While the tread is fine,
> the=
> y
> > are
> > >>> cracked all around because I don't have a garage. I probably drive it
> > less
> > >>> than 5,000 miles/year, and would like to replace them with decent,
> sa=
> fe
> > >>> tires that would be less expensive then Michelins.
> > >>>
> > >>> Is there anything special about Vanagon tires that I should know
> > about? (I
> > >>> am not considering used tires or retreads.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>> Patti
> > >>>
> > >>> 90 Westy automatic
> > >>> Los Angeles, California
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:09:42 -0700
> From:    PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Time for new tires!
>
> Yaay!  Looks like my favorite tire
> <http://www.americantiredepot.com/tire-details.html?id=3D27411> place has
> them or will be able to order them!  (I hope these are the ones!)
> Patti
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:59 PM, PB <pbrattan@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks very much for the info.  Tomorrow morning I will contact the local
> > dealer and ask if he can get the recommended Hancooks. Apparently they're
> > available from Walmart and Sears, but I'll keep checking to see where
> els=
> e
> > they can be obtained locally.
> > Patti
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Jim Arnott <jrasite@eoni.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Patti,
> >>
> >> The 185R14 is not an indication of =E2=80=9Ctruck=E2=80=9D tire. The
> loa=
> d range is.
> >> There are three =E2=80=98acceptable' criteria. All taken individually,
> o=
> f course.
> >>
> >> 1. load range 104 is high enough. 95 or 98 really isn=E2=80=99t.
> >> 2. the suffix XL on the size. 185R14 XL  (Extra load.)
> >> 3. the suffix C on the size. 185R14C (Commercial)
> >>
> >> Any of those those the indicators would show suitability for a Vanagon.
> >>
> >> The same holds true for the factory optional tire size 205/70R14.
> >> 205/70R14 is a passenger car tire. 205/70R14 XL is a Vanagon tire.
> >>
> >> Larry Chase=E2=80=99s site <
> http://www.roadhaus.com/tires/guideline.html=
> > is
> >> noncommercial. Bus Depot sells tires. (Though Ron is way more accurate
> t=
> han
> >> one of the other popular Vanagon tire sellers.)
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own mind.
> >> -- Franklin D. Roosevelt
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:11 PM, PB <pbrattan@GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Both sets of tire guidelines are very helpful.  I'm glad to know that
> =
> I
> >> > already have the recommended size tires *(**185R14)* on my Westy,
> >> although
> >> > they need to be replaced.  Is this size, by definition, a TRUCK tire,
> =
> as
> >> > opposed to a passenger car tire?  And is *185R14* uniform within all
> >> makes
> >> > of tires?  Is there any variations within this size from maker to
> make=
> r?
> >> > *Patti*
> >> > *90 Westy Automatic*
> >> > *Los Angeles  *
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Jon VO <jondvo@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Load range & sidewall deflection issues are what comes to mind, given
> >> the
> >> >> smallish tire and relatively high weight & loading of the tire. You
> >> may be
> >> >> able to go to 195r14's if you can find them. A bit larger all around,
> >> more
> >> >> weight capacity but still will fit the spare area, and otherwise be a
> >> >> slight improvement.  Unfortunately, the 195r14 reinforced size seems
> =
> to
> >> >> have all but vanished...I believe Hancook still make them.
> >> >> I am running all-season tires which are a compromise, summer tires
> we=
> ar
> >> >> longer.  Winter tires have much better cold & ice traction.
> >> >> Jon
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 4/17/2015 2:58 PM, PB wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Is there anything different about getting new tires for my 90
> >> >>> Westy automatic?  There's a tire dealer I feel comfortable with, not
> >> far
> >> >>> from where I live. I've gotten tires for my Jeep there. Their
> servic=
> e
> >> is
> >> >>> excellent, and I have had no problems with the service or the tires.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My current tires are Michelin 185R 14C.  While the tread is fine,
> >> they are
> >> >>> cracked all around because I don't have a garage. I probably drive
> i=
> t
> >> less
> >> >>> than 5,000 miles/year, and would like to replace them with decent,
> >> safe
> >> >>> tires that would be less expensive then Michelins.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is there anything special about Vanagon tires that I should know
> >> about? (I
> >> >>> am not considering used tires or retreads.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks.
> >> >>> Patti
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 90 Westy automatic
> >> >>> Los Angeles, California
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Sat, 18 Apr 2015 02:31:23 +0000
> From:    Paul Freese <freese.paul@YAHOO.COM <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Audi
>
> Yes the 98 is indeed a good one.=C2=A0 I assume is is the 2.8 and not the
> t=
> urbo since it is still around after almost 20 years.=C2=A0 The 12 valve is
> =
> indeed a robust engine and there is a site dedicated to this:=C2=A0
> www.12v=
> alve.org=20
> This is quite simple and easy to work on but you will have to remove the
> fr=
> ont bumper assembly to work on the front of the engine (H20 pump, timing
> be=
> lt....).=C2=A0 Not so with the same vintage A6 but then you are stuck with
> =
> an auto.
> It will be one of you favorite cars ever!!!
> -Paul
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Fri, 17 Apr 2015 23:48:23 -0400
> From:    KIM BRENNAN <kimbrennan@MAC.COM <javascript:;>>
> Subject: Re: Time for new tires!
>
> ??? Aspect ratio of 185R14 is 82% as I recall. Why would you consider =
> the 185R14 designation obsolete if tires are still made with that =
> designation?=20
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Stuart MacMillan <stuartmacm@GMAIL.COM
> <javascript:;>> =
> wrote:
> >=20
> > No, and 185R 14 is an obsolete designation, but you may be able to =
> still find it. All modern tires use an aspect ratio along with the =
> diameter and tread width, like 205 75 R 14.  It's the load rating that =
> makes it a truck tire.  Load rating C or D for the Vanagon, both of =
> which have reinforced sidewalls.=20
>
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