About a year ago I stumbled upon a Eurovan in a junkyard.  Don't know the
year or engine size.  Peering under the hood on the driver's side I saw a
relay with substantial wires leading to the positive battery terminal and
the starter solenoid.  A smaller wire went off apparently to the ignition
switch.  I said "Aha!  The VW engineers have admitted they were wrong on
the previous generations."
  I extracted the relay and plan to install it in a vanagon, one of these
days.  (Too many vanagons, too little time.)

Larry A.

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:37 PM, David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote:

> At 08:27 PM 5/14/2015, The Bus Depot wrote:
>
>> for relay failure, but they're usually pretty reliable).  If I am not
>> mistaken, many if not most modern vehicles use the ignition switch as a
>> trigger and do not actually route the starter through it.
>>
>
> I have a hideous feeling that some of them use a logic switch there
> to initiate a command request for the car to wake itself up and
> start. <runs screaming off into the woods>
>
> d
>