

| Subject: | Re: 1981 Brake Caliper Decision |
| From: | kenneth wilford (Van-Again) |
| Date: | Mon, 18 May 2015 12:00:56 -0400 |
It is easy to get mixed up, that is why I get the Bentley out every time I do it just to be sure that I am putting it together right. I hate doing stuff over. Ken On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:51 AM, <jondvo@gmail.com> wrote: > Excellent advice, i did my rear brakes and initially had problems because > one of the parts were installed backwards - the rears make a big difference > in pedal feel. > Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 18, 2015, at 9:08 AM, kenneth wilford (Van-Again) < > kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote: > > > > Neil, I have done many, many full brake system refurbishments over the > > years. One of the first ones I did was on an early Vanagon like yours. > > Everything was brand new, yet I could tell that the pedal feel was low > and > > soft. Someone on the list recommended adjusting the rear drums properly. > > That is where all of the problems were. I have seen the rear brakes put > > together incorrectly so many times, that will do it as well. I would > pull > > the rear drums, use the diagram from the Bentley to be sure that the > > adjusters and springs are all installed correctly. Then you want to > adjust > > the drums until the rear shoes are just kissing the drum (you will hear a > > little rubbing when you turn the drum but not dragging and the wheel can > > still turn easily). Do this and see if this helps your situation. It > > should bring your brakes up to par without spending any more money > (unless > > you find something missing or broken). If this helps you out and you > want > > to donate to us, we have a paypal link on our site. I know you don't buy > > parts from us so I thought I would mention the donation button. > > > > Let us know how you make out. > > > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com > > > >> On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Hi all. > >> > >> The back ground info is below, but here's the bottom line; I need to > >> improve the braking on my '81 Westy. I suspect the rebuilt calipers I > >> installed > >> several years ago, never worked 100% correctly due to poor quality > >> assembly or > >> parts. i.e. one leaked right away. Image: http://tinyurl.com/lqsx4gf > >> > >> My choices: > >> > >> - upgrade steering knuckles, install a "Bigger Brake Kit" > >> - upgrade steering knuckles, install new '86 + calipers etc. > >> - rebuild a spare set of Girling calipers. > >> > >> Is rebuilding the old style calipers a waste of time? Most of those > >> cores are pretty old now, > >> have likely been rebuilt at least a few times, and I've heard that > >> some rebuild kits may not be of good quality. However. I have what may > >> be a decent set of calipers I could clean up and rebuild. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Neil. > >> > >> Since I'd been driving my '88 Westy the last while, I've since > >> discovered that the brakes in my '81 Westy pale terribly in > >> comparison. I had a Vanagon mechanic road test the '81 brakes. His > >> first comment about them was something akin to 'they're crappy'. > >> He also suggested it could be a caliper issue; I'd installed rebuilt > >> calipers > >> several years ago (along with doing a bunch of other brake work) > >> The brake system is in otherwise good condition but the brakes just > >> don't "bite" as well as my '88 brakes, there is considerable fade, > >> pedal doesn't feel as hard as that on my '88. > >> Rear shoe were is normal and even. I'm certain no air is in the > >> hydraulic system. > >> The mechanic said he'd run into a problem like this before. He removed > the > >> pads, > >> and carefully pushed the brake pedal down to move the pistons further > out > >> in an > >> effort to (reseat?) the piston O ring. He said this improved the > >> brakes and that the > >> issue had to do with either the piston position or the O ring itself > >> (not flexing enough?) > >> > >> -- > >> Neil n > >> > >> Blog: Vanagons, Westfalia, general <http://tubaneil.blogspot.ca> > >> > >> 1988 Westy Images <https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/New1988Westy> > >> > >> 1981 Westfalia "Jaco" Images, technical < > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/> > >> > >> Vanagon-Bus VAG Gas Engine Swap Group <http://tinyurl.com/khalbay> > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > Ken Wilford > > John 3:16 > > www.vanagain.com > -- Thanks, Ken Wilford John 3:16 www.vanagain.com
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